Janet Jackson should be inducted into the Hall Of Fame simply because she put's her entire Heart & Soul into everything she does. Not only does she write, sing, and dance, she's also one of the most incredible Actress' of our time. She is so Blessed with such incredible talent, and has influenced so many other Artisit's....She is an ICON and deserves the love and RESPECT to be inducted NOW ! Thank you Janet., for everthing you've done so far....please don't ever stop, we LOVE YOU more then words can ever say !

Posted by Bill Barnes on Thursday, 01/31/2013 @ 16:46pm

Janet Jackson is not talented. She's lucky that she even had a hit. She's ugly and she sucks.

Posted by Calypso on Sunday, 02/24/2013 @ 15:43pm

you ever considered becoming a music critic, Calypso?

Posted by GFW on Sunday, 02/24/2013 @ 17:04pm

I just realized that Janet Jackson sampled Sly and the Family Stone on Rhythm Nation. (Thank you/be myself again)

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/26/2013 @ 08:46am

Roy - that is correct. And they are credited for the sample.

I think my favorite Janet sample is Got Til It's Gone, sampling Joni Mitchell's Big Yellow Taxi. Joni absolutely LOVED it. Pretty cool trivia tidbit.

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I just realized that Janet Jackson sampled Sly and the Family Stone on Rhythm Nation. (Thank you/be myself again)

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Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 02/26/2013 @ 09:22am

NO. Janet has ruined her legacy! She is a joke now who only whispers about sex

Posted by Toysoldier on Wednesday, 03/27/2013 @ 10:59am

Interesting comment, Toysoldier. Her two most recent offerings, "Make Me" and "Nothing" were neither whispery, nor really about sex.

Janet's legacy remains. There's no denying her musical and cultural impact, especially during her heyday.

Posted by Marissa on Wednesday, 03/27/2013 @ 11:07am

She will probably make it in a weak year when many of the first year eligibility artists are unmemorable or when she dies. But I definitely think she will be in it someday.
(nastay nastay boys

Posted by Eric on Wednesday, 04/3/2013 @ 17:40pm

Anyone who doesn't think Janet should be inducted into the Hall of Fame obviously doesn't know music. Janet is single handedly responsible for every thing you see and hear from Britney, Beyonce, RIhanna, X-Tina and so forth. SHe has started the singer/dancer motif that you see regularly in pop music.

Before 1986 when Janet dropped control, no female, not even Madonna was doing the dance production number. So Janet even inspired ya'll favorite Queen Madonna in ways. Madonna decided to work with Dallas Austin and experiment with New Jack Swing, R&B, on her Erotica album and Bedtime Stories because of Janet's success.

During her heydey, she has sold out stadiums worldwide and had international #1 hits in both RnB, Pop, and Rock, but ppl tend to forge that. One of her #1 hits was a rock track (Black Cat) another of her hits was rock influenced (If), on every album she has experimented with Rock music and lets not forget where Rock music stems from (blues and rhythm and blues). If Madonna can be inducted so can Janet, for no one has influence pop music as she. They've also iinducted other influential RnB and SOul group into the Hall of Fame.END OF STORY

Posted by V Bernard on Saturday, 04/13/2013 @ 18:21pm

Janets albams are no longer quality effarts. She made some good music and had a string of hits. But it's been ages. She is now more busy with her billionaire husband. Janet does not care anymore, Neither should we :) x

Posted by Porpoise on Tuesday, 04/16/2013 @ 12:01pm

Janet Jackson should already be in the Hall. The list of songs on this page is great but so many other great songs by her are left off. Janet is a beautiful spirit who has contributed so much to music as well as to Humanitarian work ( AIDS, Education and more). So many artist have come after her and stop to give her credit for why they do what they do. This is really a no brainer so I don't understand what the problem is. Let's honor our Iconic legends while they are still among us.

Posted by Benita on Thursday, 04/25/2013 @ 16:19pm

Hell yeah..Janet should have been inducted..Janet paved they way for the Brittany's and the Beyonce's..etc....She has set SEVERAL records, that to this day have no been broken..She has ALWAYS been a trendsetter, with her music, fashion, videos, choreography...her live performances are just BANANAS..no other artist effectively brings the video to the stage and KILLS IT.

Posted by Prentice on Thursday, 04/25/2013 @ 17:50pm

Really?!?!?!? Do we even have to ask this question?!?!?!??! "Ms Jackson if you're nasty!" & "What have you done for me lately?" These song lyrics and others are apart of the fabric of music for so many, especially women! Let's get this ball rolling and get her in her rightful place......in Rock & Roll history.

Posted by Chet on Tuesday, 05/14/2013 @ 11:20am

Janet definitely deserves a spot in the hall of Fame regardless who other names are on the list. There chance will come as well, but let's give Janet Jackson her moment.

Posted by Printice Raines on Tuesday, 05/14/2013 @ 11:51am

Yes, Janet should be inducted. I'm surprised she hasn't been nominated yet. The Rhythm Nation 1814 tour is still the most successful debut tour in history. (pretty amazing!)

Remember the Janet knock-offs that every record label tried to clone to achieve Janet Jackson-like success? Jody Watley, Karyn White, Paula Adbul, Pebbles? (there are probably dozens more but those artists came to mind immediately)

Janet's definitely left her mark on the music industry and deserves to be inducted.

Posted by Marci Sanchez on Tuesday, 05/14/2013 @ 14:22pm

I stumbled upon this YouTube video this morning. Anybody who still has doubts whether Janet Jackson had cultural impact and inspired her peers and those that followed, please watch this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gdPLb4QZuk8

Janet receives praise from the following: Mariah Carey, Whitney Houston, Toni Braxton, TLC, Bonnie Raitt, Debbie Gibson, NSYNC, Britney Spears, Grace Jones, Queen Latifah, Kelly Rowland, etc. etc. etc.

Posted by Humble Pie on Sunday, 06/9/2013 @ 12:49pm

When Janet releases her upcoming album (she's currently in the studio finishing it), and if it's even mildly successful I think the nomination committee will have to mark her as a serious contender.

30 years in the music business is pretty amazing.

Posted by Bree Bree on Tuesday, 07/2/2013 @ 10:35am

This is a no-brainer!!! The fact that there is even a question is an insult. Janet Jackson is an Icon around the world. She helped define an era in music. Many of the current top artists credit her as a being role model and inspiration...case closed!

Posted by Thomas on Tuesday, 07/2/2013 @ 14:37pm

I strongly encourage the review committee to induct Janet Jackson into the Hall of Fame. She has inspired four generations of people, of all walks of life, to end racism, domestic and intimate partner violence, bigotry and homelessness. She stands at the forefront on health issues such as HIV/AIDS, depression and obesity. More so, she supports education and diversity. All of this is achieved through her incredible 10 CD collection of music.

She is one of the greatest performers of all time and someone whom I deeply respect. Please induct Mrs. Jackson!!!

Posted by Jay Blahnik on Friday, 07/12/2013 @ 02:21am

I think the induction of Quincy Jones this year was in preparation for a Janet Jackson induction sometime soon. I don't think nipplegate is the reason Janet Jackson isn't in yet. Remember Madonna's antics? I think Toure will throw Janet Jackson's name down for nomination. He's on the committee.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 08/13/2013 @ 06:39am

No no no just no! She does not even sing live.

Posted by Nippy on Wednesday, 08/21/2013 @ 08:48am

Madonna's "antics" were not like that of that one-time controversy for Janet (who, despite moving toward a more sexual image, is pretty non-threatening as an entertainer). And they were not done at an event like the Super Bowl.

Anyhow, I said it before- she's deserving of a nomination, but the fact that she hasn't been nominated as of yet is telling. I don't expect a nod this year.

Posted by JR on Saturday, 09/7/2013 @ 21:30pm

I was slightly surprised to see Janet Jackson snubbed the nomination committee again. The 2014 ballot is very light on females and very light on R&B. Chic being the only R&B group, and they're really disco.

I'm hoping Janet gets her nomination next time around. It's time.

Posted by Bill M. on Wednesday, 10/16/2013 @ 16:09pm

FutureRockLegends - "All For You" was released in 2001, not 2000.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 10/29/2013 @ 08:58am

HolidayGuy,

I really hope you're kidding. The only thing I agree with in your post is about Rihanna.

Posted by Jason Voigt on Monday, 11/11/2013 @ 17:50pm

Janet no longer deserves it. She ruined her legacy and her career is a joke now. Meanwhile miss Jackson is laughing all the way to the bank. Good for her, but she is no longer an artist

Posted by Porpoise on Tuesday, 11/19/2013 @ 17:53pm

by showing her tits, yeah? god forbid a woman show any skin!

Posted by GFW on Tuesday, 11/19/2013 @ 17:54pm

GFW,

You somehow say in a sentence what would take me several paragraphs to get out.

Porpoise,

There is so much sexism going on in your post I can't even touch it.

Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 11/20/2013 @ 09:14am

Janet Jackson will be inducted whether you like it or not!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/20/2013 @ 09:34am

Some of the above comments are ridiculous.

Janet is deserving of a nomination and I truly believe she'll be nominated within a couple of years. Her chances will greatly improve once she releases new material. If her new album is even moderately successful it might provide a gentle nudge to the nomination committee.

Posted by Chris Bender on Thursday, 11/21/2013 @ 10:48am

Not even Janets more famous sister La Toya has been inducted. I dont see Janet being accepted, not until la Toya gets it. But keep praying guys X

Posted by zaghawa on Wednesday, 11/27/2013 @ 16:16pm

"La Toya"

"More famous"

lol

Posted by GFW on Wednesday, 11/27/2013 @ 16:22pm

"Not even Janets more famous sister La Toya has been inducted."

Neither has a chance until Rebbie gets in though. With that legendary career it shouldn't be much longer.

Posted by Chris F. on Wednesday, 11/27/2013 @ 16:27pm

Janet will be nominated. The only real question is when.

Posted by Marissa on Friday, 11/29/2013 @ 09:29am

Interesting read....

Why Aren't They In The Rock&Roll Hall of Fame: Janet Jackson

http://edgeinducedcohesion.wordpress.com/2013/08/11/why-arent-they-in-the-rock-roll-hall-of-fame-janet-jackson/

Posted by Marissa on Thursday, 12/19/2013 @ 12:27pm

Janet will be inducted within the next 30-50 years Im sure. There is just a very long list of artists before her that deserve it too if not more.

Posted by DAWO on Friday, 12/20/2013 @ 15:31pm

Great blog post from SOULBounce on the brilliance of the "janet." album - 20 years later.

A noteworthy excerpt:
"The chart and cultural impact of janet. was far-reaching. The album launched a whopping nine singles internationally, with many landing in the Top 10 of charts all over the world. It also showed female stars that there was a lane to be sexy somewhere between her own chaste "Let's Wait Awhile" and Madonna's full-out erotic assault. And if you think that future generations didn't follow this blueprint, you're sorely mistaken. Look no further than Beyoncé's recent self-titled album, where the once very private star has finally opened up to express her sexual and sensual sides while also embracing her womanhood (sound familiar yet?). It's easy to see, then, that in SoulBounce's Class of 1993, janet. is clearly the valedictorian. Now bow down to that."

Posted by Mike on Friday, 12/27/2013 @ 10:04am

Some of the ppl on this thread is eeking some of the most idiotic comments I've ever read. EVERYTHING you see done today by dancer/singers comes from Janet. JT, Usher, Britney, Beyonce, Rihanna 9I an go on and on) were all influenced by Janet's bonafide formula. Madonna hasn't had a good a;bum since 2000's Music and they saw fit to induct her. Madonna cannot sing nor dance but she's in the Hall of Fame. Janet may not have the strongest voice but her hits (like Madonna's) is timeless and people will be jamming to them for decades to come.

Her legacy is solid and haters just have to accept it,

Posted by VBernard on Sunday, 12/29/2013 @ 17:01pm

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sex_(Madonna)

****JANET JACKSON****

As Arsenio would say, " Things that make you go "Hmmmm"....

Janet Jackson's career and her RRHOF induction chances are derailed by one "wardrobe malfunction", Yet, Madonna releases an entire X-RATED BOOK about "SEX" and SHE GETS INDUCTED.

"(Hmmmmm.....)"

Posted by Bill G on Monday, 01/20/2014 @ 21:31pm

Michael Powell (former FCC chief) was recently quoted that Janet was treated unfairly during and after the Super Bowl. It's interesting that it took him 10 years to say it, but better late than never?

I hope Janet finally receives her nomination during the next induction cycle.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 01/28/2014 @ 11:06am

Mike,

Janet has to be one of, if not the, biggest of snubs in the Hall. I never expected it to take her this long to get in, especially with the sheer magnitude of a career like that. Madonna was ushered in, and Janet was her main competition during both their peaks.

If the Hall is keeping someone out because of a scandal involving sexuality, then they are the biggest group of hypocrites out there.

Although the Hall does tend to have a sexist mentality. I don't think it is as big as some make it out to be, but it is fairly apparent that there are token female artists getting in and getting nominated.

Posted by Chris F. on Tuesday, 01/28/2014 @ 18:46pm

Time to give it a rest

Posted by Habibi on Saturday, 02/1/2014 @ 12:39pm

@Habibi - time to give what a rest?


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Time to give it a rest

Posted by Habibi on Saturday, 02.1.14 @ 12:39pm

Posted by Marissa on Friday, 02/7/2014 @ 09:53am

Janet Jackson is a fabulous entertainer

Posted by Ron Ceasar on Monday, 02/17/2014 @ 07:27am

Good interview from notinhalloffame.com on Janet Jackson and nomination chances, etc.

http://www.notinhalloffame.com/home/interviews/734-interview-with-mike-litherland-from-the-induct-janet-jackson-to-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-campaign

Posted by Marissa on Friday, 04/25/2014 @ 14:31pm

Its due, its deserved, nuff said.

Posted by Anthony H on Friday, 05/23/2014 @ 16:11pm

Janet Jackson laid the blueprint for the pop/dance/R&B female artist.

How has she not been inducted yet?

Posted by KING on Saturday, 05/24/2014 @ 23:54pm

Janet Jackson's music is amazing. You can relate to her in her music.

Posted by James Majestic on Wednesday, 05/28/2014 @ 23:04pm

JANET IS A BEAST! She deserves to be inducted like people deserve air! She is more than talk when it comes to matters of the heart like love, children, education, and social awareness. She is an icon; a living legend! No one can, has, or will match what she does. I love her. The world loves her. To some extent she belongs to her fans.....and her fans say and feel that she belongs in the ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME!

Posted by Rachel on Wednesday, 06/11/2014 @ 08:54am

Janet Jackson is a musical icon and a genius. She has won a slew of many musical accolades,scored five #1 back-to-back CD's between Control,Rhythm Nation 1814,janet.,The Velvet Rope,and All For You,and has had 40 number one hit singles.She has outsold her contemporaries in concert tour ticket sales (Madonna,Tina Turner,and her brother Michael) and is the third most successful African-American touring artist behind Tina Turner and brother Michael. Her debut tour,Rhythm Nation,was the most successful debut tour of any musical artist ever. Janet Jackson has sold over 140 million records,has won six Grammy's,33 Billboard Music Awards,10 VMA moonmen,15 American Music Awards,one Emmy award,and one World Music Award for lifetime acheivement. It's high time that Janet Damita Jo Jackson should be honored for her greatest contributions to the music industry by being inducted into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Danny Monroe on Thursday, 06/12/2014 @ 01:19am

Hey Janet is well! she have the best Fam. base.
she's not interested in short term fans.
She's well with in her right to be inducted.
But if she got to put work in like she hasn't done her part in music. The industry is way out of control. Janet been in entertainment since birth. With famous brothers in the business, she set the blue print for all these Janet wanna be's that's out now. The truth is undeniable but negative hating folk will praise BS and reward tasteless garbage. Janet has a loyal fam. base. that roller coaster ride song she has. Describes the ins an outs of Fans whose intensions are temporary. Janet's true fam. love her 4life!

Posted by regina on Sunday, 06/22/2014 @ 10:28am

Momentum seems to be building for a Janet Jackson nomination.

Did you know? Janet has had more top ten hits than any eligible artist who isn’t in the Hall…surpassing acts like Chicago and her contemporary, Whitney Houston.

It's inevitable for Janet. Just a matter of when.

Posted by Marco on Thursday, 06/26/2014 @ 10:22am

Can't compare Madonna to Janet- while Janet has been influential and has produced some great material, Madonna is a whole 'nother league in terms of influence and impact (on both music/entertainment and culture).

But, Janet, on her own, is deserving of a nomninatio nand eventual induction. It will eventually happen; it's just a matter of when for some acts. Look at neil Diamond and some others who waited a long time. The Hall just didn't see Janet as one of those no-brainer, first-year-eligible acts.

Posted by JR on Monday, 06/30/2014 @ 09:50am

Janet Jackson definitely deserves to be inducted because not only did she rule the charts in the 80's-90's but she was a fashion trend setter, a social activist, and she is from one of music's most talented families. Janet was always so kind and gentle in her interviews. She performed on every TV show, and I personally saw her in very high energy concerts where she gave it her all. Janet is a true entertainer. Her acting skills are stellar. 'Black Cat' was one a favourite rock song for a long time and she continued to push the envelope collaborating with great song writers and musicians. She pioneered the dance movement and Janet Jackson really was the one in the 80's to bring back dance. She was the first to start having sycronised dancers backing her up on stage with innovative choreo, with the help of Paula Abdul. In fact, she helped to kick-start many careers included Abdul's and Jennifer Lopez. Janet Jackson deserves to be a part of rock and roll history officially. Please induct her this year. Thank you for listening.

Posted by Megan Ramsey on Saturday, 07/12/2014 @ 18:59pm

To whoever said, Time to give it a rest, I agree.
Janet fanbase is pushing so hard, it's tacky.
Actually, the object of their adulation is a bit tacky imo.

Posted by Worm on Monday, 07/14/2014 @ 11:59am

@Worm:
You're certainly entitled to your opinion of thinking Janet is tacky.

But, what exactly is tacky about a fanbase pushing for a nomination?

Posted by Marissa on Thursday, 07/17/2014 @ 09:20am

Marissa:

Fair point. Afterall, the whole idea of this site is to argue for and push our own particular candidates. But some artists have rabid fans (thats okay) but that they not so much present a case, they mobilize like an army of sheep! lol. Can you spell oxymoron! Janet's fan base can do that imo. But she is not "unworthy" as they say (ref Waynes World) does she really need to be pushed?

Posted by Worm on Thursday, 07/17/2014 @ 18:49pm

Please add Janet Jackson!! It is time! She has done so much with her music, for dance and acting. She has grown up in the business, put on amazing shows and concerts and has paved the way for so many artists: The Late Whitney Houston(from her own words she stated it), Madonna, Nia Peeples, Vanessa Williams, Paula Abdul, TLC, The Late Aaliyah, Brandy, Jennifer Lopez, Ashanti, Beyonce', Ciara, Britney Spears, Kelly Rowland, there are more, but these are the biggest names in the industry, and of course us all that had our fashion trends, Janet started major ones, remember the key on the earring? It was a big trend, jewelry stores selling them... along with hairstyles and the dance moves... here is an article about her to help this along, please induct Janet Jackson! Thank you

http://thelavalizard.com/2013/05/the-pop-culture-impact-of-janet-jacksons-velvet-rope/

Posted by Latosha on Friday, 07/25/2014 @ 00:17am

Please get her in. She is a great person inside out and has amazing naturally raw talent like no one else. Love Janet!

Posted by Ari on Saturday, 08/30/2014 @ 21:32pm

I'm surprised that Janet Jackson hasn't even been nominated yet. I noticed the Essential Albums and Essential Songs sections at the top. You are missing the "All For You" album. It was successful and influential.

And you're missing a lot of her songs. "Control", "If", "Got Til It's Gone", and "I Get Lonely" are among the best in her catalog. Why aren't those listed?

Posted by Elizabeth Foley on Monday, 09/15/2014 @ 08:26am

If you ask the average person on the street which two words describe Janet Jackson, they will say "wardrobe malfunction," not spectacular artist, nor great songwriter, or anything positive.

If Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction had occurred on a late night show on H.B.O., it may have been forgiven, but instead it was during the Superbowl Half-time show. This was an inappropriate venue to try something so provocative. It made her look desperate, like she had needed attention. Children and their parents watch this show. To the right wing religious types, it was a deliberate affront to their sensibilities.
They did not like it and they made it known. Meanwhile, Viacom and their many television outlets were furious, they had banned her from their media outlets.

Many may look at this as an an ill- conceived attempt to create controversy. Janet had transformed from the "good girl" on "Good Times" to a Nasty girl over those two decades. The powers that be, do not like women to be sexually provocative. In my honest opinion, when Justin may have suggested this, she should have said "No way, my career is much more
valuable."

It is for this error in judgement that she was raked over the coals. Her earlier albums reflect a maturing, independent young lady. If she had never participated in this, she would have been enshrined already, but Janet was becoming more provocative. She had appeared topless on "Rolling Stone," with her boyfriend's hands onlycovering her breasts. She was also talking about taboo subjects, this does not sit well with Conservative Middle America. If she was not a celebrity, she probably would have been arrested for indecent behavior.

Unfortunately this incident leaves a huge stain on her brilliant career. Her charitable work has been quite notable, but her audience has changed. She appeals to a demographic of teenage girls and young gay men.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 09/15/2014 @ 09:58am

Enig, the NomCom are not average people on the street; in fact, they kind of proud of that. Neither are the voting bloc, for that matter. The wardrobe malfunction won't mean squat to them. Nada.

Also, Michael had to wait a few years after becoming eligible, too.

Posted by Philip on Monday, 09/15/2014 @ 22:01pm

But, we can't have someone who showed part of her boobie inducted into the ROCK AND ROLL Hall of Fame and tarnishing the reputations of the fine, upstanding citizens who are already inducted.

Posted by DarinRG on Monday, 09/15/2014 @ 22:18pm

Yeah, the "wardrobe malfunction" has long been thought of by a lot of people to be the reason she's not in the HOF, and anyone that actually knows the people on the committee and at the HOF knows that that has nothing to do with it. If anything the controversy from it would make them want to vote for her. The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame Nominating and Voting Committees aren't looking for upstanding, wholesome inductees. This isn't Bible Belt Americans voting on the inductees after all. The more rebellious, the more controversy, the better.

I do believe that the "wardrobe malfunction" helped to end her peak as one of the top artists in the music industry as there was a huge backlash against her afterwards. But that had to do with her record sales and concert sales, her radio airplay, the promotion of her albums and songs, etc. Not her legacy as a music artist or whether she'll be considered an icon or legend in the music industry, her place in music history was already set. When you go 10-15 years as one of the top 5 most famous people in the music industry, like Janet was able to, that's a pretty big deal, and short of you murdering someone, that's not gonna go away. The wardrobe malfunction just happened to bring a close to her prime years as one of the top figures in the music industry. She's still a legend and icon of the music industry and her influence on the generation of pop and R&B musicians that came after her, didn't go with it. She just faded out of the limelight, like pretty much every other entertainer has ever done.

The reason she hasn't been inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is because the Hall is just reluctant to induct artists of her kind. Not just the fact that she's black, not just the fact that she's a woman, but more than anything that she's a pop artist. The Hall has been very slow to acknowledge 80's music, and it's been especially slow to acknowledge pop and dance music. This is the same crowd that still believes disco was the worst thing to ever happen to music, and pop and dance music was the next evolutionary step after disco, so naturally the same people that won't vote Chic in, the same people that wouldn't vote Donna Summer in until after she died, these are the same people that don't want to acknowledge Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, and they'll have the same mentality when Christina Aguilera and Britney Spears become eligible in the next 10 years. It's a bias against 80's music, and especially pop music. Madonna was more edgy and controversial, not to mention being in an elite club of the most iconic American musicians in history, so you kind of can't ignore Madonna. But the rest of the female pop stars of the 80's and 90's? Sure. Just as it took Donna Summer 5 nominations and her dying to get inducted, just as Chic has been nominated 8 times and still hasn't been voted in, until the Nominating Committee gets younger and more diverse, it's gonna be a struggle for Janet, Whitney, Mariah, and later on Britney, Rihanna, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, etc. to get in. That's just the way it is.

Posted by Donnie on Monday, 09/15/2014 @ 22:43pm

No, but in order to put on each of these extravaganzas, you need to have sponsors. Generally speaking, sponsors are much more conservative than either you, or I.

If they feel that the risk is too great, they will pull their support. Sponsors rely on those so-called "Middle Americans" to purchase their products. If they do not sell their products, they cannot afford to provide financial backing.

When you offend the sensibilities of a large group like this, you risk the possibility of losing your business. Since most decisions are purely economic in nature, something as trite as the decision to nominate, or not nominate someone is usually monetarily driven. Otherwise, how do you explain the induction of KISS earlier this year?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09/16/2014 @ 04:05am

Donnie's assessment is spot on.

I think Janet's nomination is inevitable - it's just a matter of time.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 09/16/2014 @ 09:39am

If you ask the average person on the street which two words describe Janet Jackson, they will say "wardrobe malfunction," not spectacular artist, nor great songwriter, or anything positive.

If Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction had occurred on a late night show on H.B.O., it may have been forgiven, but instead it was during the Superbowl Half-time show. This was an inappropriate venue to try something so provocative. It made her look desperate, like she had needed attention. Children and their parents watch this show. To the right wing religious types, it was a deliberate affront to their sensibilities.
They did not like it and they made it known. Meanwhile, Viacom and their many television outlets were furious, they had banned her from their media outlets.

Many may look at this as an an ill- conceived attempt to create controversy. Janet had transformed from the "good girl" on "Good Times" to a Nasty girl over those two decades. The powers that be, do not like women to be sexually provocative. In my honest opinion, when Justin may have suggested this, she should have said "No way, my career is far too important and much more valuable."

Is it for this error in judgement that she was raked over the coals? Her earlier albums reflect a maturing, independent
young lady.

If she had never participated in this, would she
have been enshrined already?

However, Janet was becoming more provocative. She had appeared topless on "Rolling Stone," with only her boyfriend's hands covering her breasts. She was pushing the envelope by also talking about taboo subjects. This does not sit well with Conservative Middle America. If she was not a celebrity, she probably would have been arrested for indecent behavior.

Unfortunately this incident leaves a huge stain on her otherwise brilliant career.

However, Janet's charitable work has been quite notable, especially her support of AmFar. Her audience has changed. She now appeals largely to a demographic consisting of teenage girls and young gay men.

I think that Donnie has made some very astute observations. Is the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame having difficulty with this? Is Mariah Carey next?

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 09.15.14 @ 09:58am

Posted by Enigmaticus on Tuesday, 09/16/2014 @ 10:06am

"No, but in order to put on each of these extravaganzas, you need to have sponsors. Generally speaking, sponsors are much more conservative than either you, or I.

If they feel that the risk is too great, they will pull their support. Sponsors rely on those so-called "Middle Americans" to purchase their products. If they do not sell their products, they cannot afford to provide financial backing."

Considering that the Hall is sponsored primarily by Wenner's empire, I think the dollar trail is secure for now.

Also, after this many years and more provocative things having been done and said on television, I think most people would agree that "Nipplegate" was at most a tempest in a teacup. Anyone still truly upset about that incident would die of instant coronary if they turned on the E! channel at any given moment (assuming commercials weren't on that second).

"When you offend the sensibilities of a large group like this, you risk the possibility of losing your business. Since most decisions are purely economic in nature, something as trite as the decision to nominate, or not nominate someone is usually monetarily driven. Otherwise, how do you explain the induction of KISS earlier this year?"

Two things:

1. They got a very passionate new member in the NomCom, named Tom Morello who was passionate enough to out-argue the detractors on that committee to get them somewhere in the Top 16 names.

2 In past years, the Hall has maintained a steady practice of getting guitar presence inducted every year, particularly toward the classic rock appeal, which KISS is a part of. Votes from their contemporaries and other voters who see rock and roll as narrowly as Gene Simmons helped get them in. Placing first in the fan ballot probably didn't hurt either.

Posted by Philip on Tuesday, 09/16/2014 @ 12:57pm

Could it simply be that they feel Janet Jackson's appeal wasn't as extensive as other's see it?

I remember being in school, & hearing Jackson on the radio, & seeing her videos on MTV. R&B moved on after a while though, & I'm not sure she really kept up. She was still relevant when groups like TLC were out there, but after the later 90's, you seldom heard her mentioned.

In a way, Mariah Carey trumped her in the mid-90's, & Celine Dion also took a piece of her ballad audience (not the R&B part, but the pop part). In addition, girl groups that broke up, such as Destiny's Child, launched the Beyoncé's of the world out there. Add in the Britney's & Christina Aguilera's, & you've got a whole lot of people working the same style.

One other thing - R&B seldom bothers to acknowledge it's immediate past. You'll often hear about modern artists saluting someone 30 yrs. ago, but you seldom hear anyone talking about what someone did just 5 yrs. ago. The fan base seems willing to jettison someone in the immediate, & move on. The rapper 50 Cent was challenging Kanye West less than a decade ago - now where is he? The rapper who Weird Al ripped off w/the song "White & Nerdy", I forget his name - which pretty much says it all. Even someone like Alicia Keys is not receiving as much hype as she did just 5 yrs. ago.

Even when Jackson did the Super Bowl, it seemed as though she was a little anachronistic. Modern audiences may have expected a Rihanna to be alongside Timberlake that night. I know I ignored it & did all the important things one is supposed to do during the halftime show, like grab an extra slice of pizza (if there's any left), hit the bathroom, or clean up the mess left over from the pizza you ate before the game started.

Posted by Cheesecrop on Wednesday, 09/17/2014 @ 06:00am

Thank you for your observations, Cheesecrop.

I hardly ever watch the half-time show either. When I see who has been booked, I often change the channel. Since Superbowl generally occurs around, or in close proximity to my birthday, I am usually engaged in other activities, at that time as well, including posting on a blog, or sleeping. If I have decided to watch the Superbowl at all, it would have been predominantly for the commercials.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Wednesday, 09/17/2014 @ 09:25am

Janet will eventually be nominated but it's just a matter of when. Will it be this year? Only time will tell.

Posted by KellDawg on Thursday, 09/18/2014 @ 07:57am

Their are not many artist that can make an Cd that mostly every song is hit worthy. Janet has made at least 4 cd's in my book 5 counting Damita Jo that is superior to what was out then and still remains to this day superior to what is out now. She set the standard high the the bar was raised that even Madonna could not compare to her as far as musical genius is concerned. America may not recognize her accomplishments to the musical world because of the so called "wardrobe malfunction" but the world does and will. Janet not only put out top notch music but her concerts were an event. She left you awe struck with her precision dance moves never to miss a beat while singing and moving around the stage. Janet was the complete package.I know one day she will be there when america wakes up and realize what a talent she is. Janet in my mind you have always been there in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and the world knows it too.

Posted by crilla on Friday, 09/19/2014 @ 17:37pm

Wardrobe malfunction!

Posted by Timius on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 08:39am

Actually, there are several artists who have been creating great albums besides Janet Jackson, over those several decades, crilla. I do appreciate that Janet Jackson has done a great deal for those less fortunate and the gay community, where she is considered to be an icon. I think that she had been pushing the sexuality thing a little too far, and therefore made quite a few Conservatives very uncomfortable, they would rather have their children see hours of violence, but anything related to sex is taboo to them. I think that what she said to young female teenagers was good also.

Her lyrics and music have never resonated with me. I just happen to prefer Sade's music and lyrics, over Janet's any given day of the week.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 09:39am

Actually, there are several artists who have been creating great albums besides Janet Jackson, over those several decades, crilla. I do appreciate that Janet Jackson has done a great deal for those less fortunate and the gay community, where she is considered to be an icon. I think that she had been pushing the sexuality thing a little too far, and therefore had made quite a few Conservatives very uncomfortable. They would rather have their children watch hours of violence; anything related to sex is taboo to them.

As far as her legacy is concerned: I think that what she had originally said to young female teenagers about becoming independent young women, was great also.

Her lyrics and music have never resonated with me. I just happen to prefer Sade's music and lyrics, over Janet's any given day of the week.

Outside of Sade, I happen to support "classic rock," artists, "singer/songwriters" and "art rock/progressive rock" artists. Many of those artists also, have many great albums, also.


Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09.20.14 @ 09:39am

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 09:59am

Rhythm Nation 1814 celebrated a 25 year anniversary yesterday. It was praised by critics and was a blockbuster seller and record breaker. It continues to have quite an impact even today.

I'll post the album's spoken opening and ending. It definitely resonates today.

"We are a nation with no geographic boundaries, bound together through our beliefs. We are like-minded individuals, sharing a common vision, pushing for a world rid of color lines."

"In complete darkness we are all the same. It is only our knowledge and wisdom that separates us. Don't let your eyes deceive you."

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 10:35am

Those are quite inspirational words Marissa; thank you for posting them. Now, if only Janet's song lyrics had shown the same degree of intellectual development, then, I would have definitely become a supporter of hers.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 11:06am

Sure thing, @Enigmaticus. I'd recommend listening to Rhythm Nation 1814 if you've never done so. There's quite a message there, especially in the first 3 tracks (Rhythm Nation, State of the World, The Knowledge)

Rhythm Nation lyrics:
"With music by our side to break the color lines.
Let's work together to improve our way of life.
Join voices in protest to social injustice.
A generation full of courage come forth with me.

People of the world today are you looking for a better way of life? We are a part of the Rhythm Nation.

People of the world unite, strength in numbers we can get it right one time. We are a part of the Rhythm Nation.

This is the test - no struggle no progress.
Lend a hand to help your brother to his best.
Things are getting worse, we have to make it better.
IT'S TIME TO GIVE A DAMN LET'S WORK TOGETHER!

People of the world today are you looking for a better way of life? We are a part of the Rhythm Nation."

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 11:23am

Marissa,

Thank you for posting those lyrics. If you have other examples of other songs, please do not hesitate to post them.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 11:42am

I could go on and on. Here's another:

Interlude: We are in a race between education and catastrophe.

The Knowledge

Insight to what's going on.
Information keeps us strong.
What you don't know can hurt you bad.
Take it from you'll be walking around sad.
Crying for a better day, until you educate for a better way.
So if you wanna be in control. You gotta get yourself in the know.

Get the knowledge - that you really want.
The knowledge - do you really want.
It's the knowledge - what you really want.
The knowledge - that you really want.

Spreading vise don't believe the hype.
You don't find the knowledge in a pipe.
Too many lives go up in smoke.
It's nice to laugh but don't be the joke.
To get over, get better, try to be the possessor of the one thing we all need in life.
To succeed - take my advice and get the knowledge.

Listen it's up to everyone.
If we're gonna change the way the world is run.
The way to start is to rid the children on prejudice and ignorance.
We've gotta teach our kids to read and write.
That's the only way to win this fight for life.
Educations is the goal so, if you wanna be in the know.

Get the knowledge - it's the one thing we all need in life.

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 12:14pm

The Velvet Rope has some highly introspective tracks including the title track. Janet's not just a bunch of pop fluff. There's quite a bit of substance there. Here's "You".

"You"
Here I am in your face.
Tellin' truths and not your old lies.
Seems to me that you care.
And I know that you're runnin out of time
See ya can't get away.
I'll be there forever and again.
Whispering in your ear - Do believe 'cause you know you cannot win.

Spent most your life pretending not to be.
The one you are but who you choose to see.
Learned to survive in your fictitious world.
Does what they think of you determine your worth?
If special's what you feel when you're with them.
Taken away you feel less than again.

That's right! You gotta mean what you say.
You gotta say what you mean.
Trying to please everyone - sacrifice your own needs.
Check in the mirror my friend, no lies will be told then.
Pointin' the finger again, you can't blame nobody but YOU.

There's a feeling inside.
No you can't change it right away.
Gotta make that try - and with time it'll start to go away.
I'll be here when you need - that one to sit and cry to.
'Cause I'm the you you forgot.
The only one you know you can't lie to.

Bitter you'll be if you don't change your ways.
When you hate you, you hate everyone that day.
Unleash this scared child that you've grown into.
You cannot run for you can't hide from you.

That's right! You gotta mean what you say.
You gotta say what you mean.
Trying to please everyone - sacrifice your own needs.
Check in the mirror my friend, no lies will be told then.
Pointin' the finger again, you can't blame nobody but YOU.

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 09/20/2014 @ 12:33pm

How can we get "Control" added to essential songs. That's one of Janet's most iconic tracks.

Posted by Lisa Lisa on Saturday, 09/27/2014 @ 11:22am

JANET JACKSON,one of the originator's of dance,with the likes ofLEGENDS ,aalongside Michael Jackson deserves this induction.

Posted by Antonio Clark on Sunday, 09/28/2014 @ 04:03am

Nipplefipple.

Posted by Timius on Wednesday, 10/8/2014 @ 10:26am

So, will Control be added to the essential songs?

Posted by Lisa Lisa on Friday, 10/10/2014 @ 07:47am

@Lisa Lisa-

I don't think Control was voted in this month. Although I agree, it's certainly an essential track and should be included.

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 10/11/2014 @ 09:41am

****The DOUBLE STANDARD****

It's very inreresting that JANET JACKSON is being villified and barred from H of F induction for "nipplegate", yet, MADONNA can make AND RELEASE an ENTIRE BOOK called "SEX", with graphic depictions of sex and explict photos-and still get inducted.I'm not, by any means , saying that Janet was right, I'm just pointing out the "Double Standard" that The Hall of Fame has employed many times , for many different reasons, for inducting THEIR FAVORITES,while other deserving artists are left out in the COLD .

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/11/2014 @ 15:15pm

Completely agree, Bill G.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 10/11/2014 @ 15:23pm

Yes Bill G,

It is a double standard. It's a lot like a family who has two daughters. The older daughter is promiscuous and the younger one is straight-laced. Until one day, when the straight-laced daughter decides to follow her older sister's example. The family is shocked and decides to teach the younger daughter a lesson. Meanwhile, nothing happens to her older sister, because they expect her to be that way. Therefore, they had expected the older daughter to be the way that she was and reward her accordingly.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 10/11/2014 @ 18:58pm

I still think that's a bogus argument, Enigmaticus.

Janet's resume' up to the SuperBowl in 2004 should already be more than enough to garner a nomination.

Control, Rhythm Nation 1814, janet., The Velvet Rope and All For You were incredibly successful and wildly influential eras. There's just no denying it.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 10/12/2014 @ 08:20am

i love the Rhythm Nation album back then in velvet rope that was my bday CD since i was 9yrs old, i enjoy every last part of that album still sing it tell this day got it in my head right now lol, We have a special need To feel that we belong Come with me inside Inside my velvet rope! that my song right there luv it lol, see janet jackson is a legend!! she will get you hook without you even knowing that you are hook, she put a spell on me every since i was young.. in ms janet i luv u for that, im glad i had experience every moment of you im 22 now, in you are forever well be my idol you have inspired me to look forward in never look back in i was amazed how strong you kept your being in i thank you for that, i really hope you get it because you deserve the hack out of that award, you really do :) I.LOVE.YOU J.J!!

Posted by Paris.L.Harper on Monday, 10/20/2014 @ 16:09pm

lol hahaha Slap a plam on my face for that post smh, im not gonna what i had said wrong but you will get it tho, i luv u J Congrats on your award tho this is paris signing out smh lol

Posted by Ok people i feel stupid now on Monday, 10/20/2014 @ 16:21pm

Janet Jackson is SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO underrated! We are talking about a woman who has inspired every artist that is curently famous and toping the charts. If it wasn't for Janet there would be no Britney, no Christina, no Beyonce, no Rihanna, no Gaga, none these little Disney stars that are turning into pop stars. She has left a tremedeus mark on not only pop music but also pop culture.

She is one of the best artists that have ever lived! Amazing dancer, singer-songwriter and even an actress! NO ONE can ever release an album as personal as Janet's albums are! You feel like you connect with her through her music! She has impacted so many peoples lives with her music!

We all know that if it wasn't for that Super Bowl fiasco we wouldn't be here on this website trying to get her in the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame, coz she would have already been in. It makes me so angry when I think about it. Just because we (accidentally) saw woman's breast on tv her whole career and achievements are forgotten.

JANET IS THE BEST! PERIOD.

Posted by Jelena on Sunday, 11/2/2014 @ 05:56am

Janet JAckson. Get the point, good...let's vote. Janet was the only female doing all that dancing and singing, writing and producing, back when she was doing it until PAula Abdul decided to do her own music thing. Then came all of these "others". Without Janet, who knows where music would be right now. She is a Pop, R&B, Dance, and even Rock icon...Love me some Janet.

Posted by troy on Monday, 11/10/2014 @ 08:53am

First and foremost thnx to whomever put this together. As a huge fan of this woman I would like to say that her induction is long overdue. Saying not to nominate her is like saying she didn't make any contributions to the music industry. How many people's career has she not inspired? How many lives has she not changed? How many humanitarian efforts has she not spearheaded? I have been her fan since '89 and there are a few people qualify to me as the greatest whose ever done it. I hope our efforts are successful and she receive this accolade that she rightfully deserve.

Posted by Shellie Greene on Saturday, 11/15/2014 @ 04:05am

It's only a matter of time until Janet Jackson is nominated. She'll likely get inducted upon her first nomination. Janet's career is just too massive and her impact too great to continue to be overlooked by the committee.

Posted by Marcos on Thursday, 11/20/2014 @ 11:43am

She didn't even have that many hit songs to be honest.

Posted by Paul on Wednesday, 12/3/2014 @ 13:08pm

Hmmm. I'm going to assume your comment was sarcasm or a joke.

Billboard magazine recently ranked Janet as the #7 artist of all time in regards to the Billboard Hot 100. One slot above her big brother, I might add. Their list:

1 The Beatles
2 Madonna
3 Elton John
4 Elvis Presley
5 Stevie Wonder
6 Mariah Carey
7 Janet Jackson
8 Michael Jackson
9 Whitney Houston
10 The Rolling Stones


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She didn't even have that many hit songs to be honest.

Posted by Marissa on Wednesday, 12/3/2014 @ 15:18pm

Wasn't Janet one of the youngest female artists ever to be honored with the ASCAP award for critical achievement in songwriting. I want to say this was around 1989-1990 during Rhythm Nation 1814. Obviously, from that pint on the writing and coo-writing accolades began to flood in.

For those that doubt Janet's creative input in Control. Rhythm Nation, janet., The Velvet Rope, All For You and Damita Jo ---- the proof is in the pudding, and more appropriately, the songwriting awards. The actual massive chart success these singles/albums had was simply icing on the creative cake.

And back in those days there was none of the "change one bar and add a hum to a track to get songwriting credit. (enter Beyonce)

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 12/28/2014 @ 23:51pm

You must put her in soon. All the dancing and hits she is so worthy. Nasty videos and awesome songs!!!

Posted by Bryan on Monday, 12/29/2014 @ 01:04am

Janet has laid one of the most proven blueprints of this generation. So many artists have followed it word for word, music video by video. She has inspired today's biggest hits like Justin Timberlake, Britney, Christina, Pink, Beyonce', Katy Perry, Mia and more. Plus, the countless legions of dancers and the millions of fans. Even her Superbowl performance broke records.

Posted by Dominic on Friday, 01/2/2015 @ 08:05am

She deserves it, so what are you waiting for? Induct her!

Posted by Shirl Wright on Friday, 01/2/2015 @ 08:53am

Because of Janet Jackson;
We have Britney Spears, Beyonce, Destiny Child, Paula Abdul, Jennifer Lopez, Fergie, Rihanna,Usher, Jessica Simpson, Kelly Rowland, Brandy, Ciera and the list goes on and on.

Posted by Ericka Jackson Schingoethe on Saturday, 01/3/2015 @ 14:02pm

So is that an argument for or against her induction?

Posted by Dezmond on Saturday, 01/3/2015 @ 14:48pm

@Dezmond

I think Ericka was pointing out how influential Janet Jackson is/was in the music game. To this day, you still hear Janet elements on radio and in videos .... and DEFINITELY on the concert stage.

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 01/3/2015 @ 15:50pm

i FOR ONE THINK JANET SHOULD BE INDUCTED.NO MATTER WHAT.SHE DESERVES IT.IT'S NOT FAIR TO HER IF SHE DOESN'T GET IT.SHE HAS BEEN THROUGH A LOT OF THINGS HAD TO OVER COME TRAGEDY AND PLUS A MOVIE BEHIND IT,THAT IS DEVASTATING.THAT IS A STRONG WOMEN THEN A TRIBUTE TO HER BROTHER.HE WOULD HAVE BEEN PROUD OF HER.

Posted by justice on Wednesday, 01/7/2015 @ 03:03am

I VOTE YES, THIS IS LONG OVERDUE FOR JANET. GOD BLESS HER PATIENT HEART!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by Paris Andre on Sunday, 01/18/2015 @ 20:32pm

I vote yes because she has one of the best voices in the business. Her success speaks for itself!

Posted by Tony Cole on Monday, 01/19/2015 @ 00:54am

I vote yes. She deserves it.

Posted by LaKeeta Thomas on Wednesday, 01/21/2015 @ 11:04am

I was pretty surprised to discover that Janet Jackson is not yet in the R&R Hall of Fame. How come? Especially when you have even one hit wonders there. (I do not want to name names here, but there are artists in the HOF with a lot less success and influence than Janet and even ones who were indeed just a little more than one hit wonders.) Janet Jackson was one of the top artists of the late 80s, early 90s, had many Nr 1. hits, Nr. 1. albums, sold lots of records and influenced a lot of female artists who came after her. So c'mon now, Hall of Fame, do the right thing! I hope she will get her induction soon.

Posted by Suzy on Thursday, 01/22/2015 @ 07:01am

I see that some people think Janet has been snubbed so far because of Nipple-gate. Well, if that is the case it's very hypocritical from HOF. As if all other artists who are in are saints. LOL.

Posted by Suzy on Thursday, 01/22/2015 @ 08:13am

I also see a lot of arguments like "oh her albums in the late 80s, early 90s were good but later she declined. If we set that standard - that you cannot decline in your career - then no one should be introduced to the HOF. Ever. I mean show me an artist whose had the same level of success and acclaim all through his/her/their career. It's natural that artists have their peak and then somewhat decline. Either in popularity or the quality of their music or both. One cannot keep up the same level for decades. In my opinion there are artists already inducted in the HOF who's had a much shorter peak and a faster decline than Janet Jackson.

Posted by Suzy on Thursday, 01/22/2015 @ 14:08pm

This is for the naysayers that continue to doubt how involved Janet was in the creative process of her smash albums.

Correspondence and Virgin press release from Mitchel Schneider and Marcee Rondan on May 28, 1993.

"janet." album - #1 in America and around the world; the singer/songwriter/producer enters the US and UK album charts at #1 amidst critical acclaim!

Hot on the heels of her # 1 single "That's The Way Love Goes" = which retains this position on Billboard's Pop and R&B charts for the third and fourth consecutive weeks, respectively --- Janet Jackson has entered the Billboard Pop and R&B charts at #1 with "janet.", her Virgin Records debut album.

Janet, who produced "janet." and co-wrote all its songs, which are comprised of Janet's own lyrics and melodies -- has also duplicated this feat on the UK albums chart. To top it all off, "That's The Way Love Goes" remains #1 in Australia, Hong Kong and Malaysia.

Toure' praised the album with a four **** review in Rolling Stone and Billboard's review was even more glowing. Expect a very long chart run with "janet." which is jam packed with potential hit singles!

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 01/31/2015 @ 06:30am

Did you know?

Janet Jackson was the first female to receive a "Producer of the Year" nomination at the Grammys in 1990? Janet, Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were nominated for the brilliant 'Rhythm Nation 1814' album.

Also, Janet used to hold the record for Grammy nominations spanning the most genres: Dance, Pop, Rock, Rap & R&B.
The Rock nomination was for "Black Cat" - which charted on all kinds of Billboard charts.

Does anyone know if Janet still holds this Grammy record?

Posted by Marissa on Saturday, 01/31/2015 @ 08:20am

Very interesting analysis about chart performance amongst the Jackson family.

http://top40-charts.com/news.php?nid=90546

Janet Jackson Outsells Michael On Billboard Top Selling Jackson Singles

New York, NY (Top40 Charts) Back before her 1986 breakthrough, "Control," then-teenage Janet Jackson was still mostly known as Michael's Little Sister. That changed when Janet released her iconic single "What Have You Done for Me Lately" in February of 1986, the song earned Jackson two Grammy nominations and a Soul Train Music Award for Video of the Year, since then Janet Jackson and has been a record-breaking, history setting icon who has sold over 140 million albums and singles worldwide.

Billboard's latest Hottest Hot 100 Hits book lists four of the five biggest selling singles by the Jackson family are by Janet, surprisingly not her legendary brother Michael. Her massive 1993 hit "That's the Way Love Goes" is the biggest selling single of all the Jackson family members, while her 2001 hit "All for You" is the second biggest selling single. Looks like Janet was the one really in control.

#1 That's The Way Love Goes | Janet Jackson
#2 All for You | Janet Jackson
#3 Say, Say, Say | Paul McCartney & Michael Jackson
#4 Together Again | Janet Jackson
#5 Again | Janet Jackson
#6 Billie Jean | Michael Jackson
#7 Black Or White | Michael Jackson
#8 I'll Be There | Jackson 5
#9 Doesn't Really Matter | Janet Jackson
#10 Rock With You | Michael Jackson

#11 Beat It | Michael Jackson
#12 ABC | Jackson 5
#13 You Are Not Alone | Michael Jackson
#14 Escapade | Janet Jackson
#15 Miss You Much | Janet Jackson
#16 Any Time, Any Place | Janet Jackson
#17 I Want You Back | Jackson 5
#18 Runaway | Janet Jackson
#19 The Love You Save | Jackson 5
#20 The Girl Is Mine | Michael Jackson & Paul McCartney

Posted by Marissa on Sunday, 02/1/2015 @ 08:59am

SHE IS A GREAT SINGER PLEASE Induct HER!!!!!!

Posted by Janet Saddler on Sunday, 02/1/2015 @ 23:50pm

Simply put, there is only ONE JANET! Creative, relevant, powerful, talented, influential. Her work over the past 3 decades speaks for itself. This is a no brainer! YES, SHE DESERVES TO BE INDUCTED!!!!

Posted by Darryl on Friday, 02/6/2015 @ 12:30pm

Well said, Darryl. Completely agree! Janet's body of work speaks for itself and MORE than warrants a nomination.

Posted by Mike on Friday, 02/6/2015 @ 13:02pm

I didn't know that Janet Jackson was the first female ever to be nominated for Producer Of The Year at the Grammys. How the hell hasn't she been nominated yet?

Posted by King on Monday, 02/9/2015 @ 19:22pm

That's true, King. Janet doesn't get the credit she deserves for her songwriting and production efforts.

Still hopeful that a new album comes out this year.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 02/14/2015 @ 05:36am

janet deserves this. Music icon. Master dancer. Visionary videos. What more can you ask. Sold out shows

Posted by rosita Mahoney on Sunday, 03/8/2015 @ 17:05pm

The Rhythm Nation 1814 world tour remains the most successful,debut tour of any artist in music history. That's pretty incredible!

Posted by Marissa on Thursday, 03/26/2015 @ 04:44am

Janet's nomination is coming and likely this year.

Can't wait to hear the haters squirm and bitch & moan.

Posted by Marissa on Monday, 03/30/2015 @ 02:25am

Janet is more than deserving of the induction. If Madonna and Michael can get inducted then so can Janet. She was one of the most successful artists of the 80s and 90s. She basically ruled the charts during the Rhythm Nation era and she made some pretty stellar albums too. The nip slip shouldn't even be spoken of since so many stars show skin and nipples these days and no one bats an eye. So why should that be the only thing holding Janet back from being inducted in 2015 or 16? Sure she's not necessarily "rock" but she has plenty of songs that are rock influenced. Black Cat was full on heavy metal. And MJ and Madonna still got inducted as well despite them being pop stars. C'mon R&RHOF make us proud!! Induct Janet already!!!

Posted by Tyler on Saturday, 04/4/2015 @ 02:19am

Janet Jackson is the first artist I remember. He appreciation for the arts mixed with Pop culture is unparalleled. Often times because of his magnitude of greatness Michael Jackson is given credit that Janet deserves. She never gives the same look, she always has raw choreography and stands beside her dancers seamlessly. She is the Rosetta Stone for what you see in modern Pop influenced artists, both male and female. Her concerts are epic and I've seen none still that top her presentation. Janet is now and forever my all-time favorite and I have many I love, but not like I Love her!

Posted by James Boynton on Saturday, 04/4/2015 @ 07:43am

I love Janet have since she was Good Times as Penny and she deserves to be the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame! Janet rocks the crowd in person and on cd!E

Posted by Yolanda Ferguson on Sunday, 04/5/2015 @ 00:46am

Whether you like it or not, Janet is a true legend . She will always be a hall of famed in my heart.

Posted by Phil on Tuesday, 04/14/2015 @ 10:23am

Nothing but white people voting no for Janet so it's no surprise there. They were fine having Madonna make it but when it comes to Janet it's a no as if Madonna made rock music. At least Janet had a no.1 rock hit "Black Cat" and Janet had the "Rhythm Nation" album that hit on issues like prejudice, homelessness, suicide, poverty, education, and knowledge. The record label told her not to do it and she did it anyway and it was successful selling over 14 million copies.

Posted by JoeJoe on Tuesday, 04/14/2015 @ 12:20pm

Go to YouTube and Watch janet's black cat.
Enough said

Posted by john on Tuesday, 04/14/2015 @ 13:22pm

Janet Jackson is a MUST to be INDUCTED into the Rock'N'Roll Hall Of Fame....
Janet has been in the public's eye and a celebrity in her own right since the age of 7 years old performing the first time on stage with her siblings in Las Vegas at the Grand Hotel..during their 1 season summer Variety show.."The Jacksons".
Janet has emerged into MTV'S 1ST Icon, a Legend, a Trendsetter and Humanitarian helping and being active in various Charities and with her 1 number selling album 1989's Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814 puts Janet as the first music artist with 7 Top 10 singles and 5 of them at number #!.
Making Janet Jackson the only artist in history to have 7 top singles in the the top ten and 5 at number 1's.....
Not even her brother the late Michael Jackson and Madonna has not broken her record..no other artist has this recognition.
Janet Jackson was the Honoree at the 1990 Billboard Music Awards...honored with more than 7 Awards that evening.....
No other artist has put out so many number #1 Hits from 1 album....
Janet was on top..on the Club Charts..Pop charts, Adult Contemporary Charts..Dance Charts and R&B/Soul Charts...
Janet Jackson was named MTV'S 1ST Icon in April 2001...
Janet and Michael Jackson became the dynamic duo
both having number one Pop singles when..
Janet's 1986 Hit Track.."When I Think Of You"..
Became Janet's 1st Pop number 1.....
Janet Jackson's 1990 Debut world tour Rhythm Nation..became the number #1 Debut Tour to have sold out concerts all over the world...
No other artists debut tours have broken Janet's selling out shows from Rhythm Nation World Tour not even Phil Collins has this Honor.
Janet Jackson continued through-out her career to break her own records. Her 1993 debut album from Virgin Records "janet." is Janet's biggest selling album to date selling 22 million copies world wide.
Janet has sold overall 150 million albums across the globe.
Janet Jackson is one of the top selling female music artists in the world and still is today.
There is no reason why The Rock 'N' Roll Hall Of fame should have any doubt to induct her for 2016.
What is it with The Rock 'N Roll Hall Of Fame..waiting to see when an artist dies then you pay them homage....?
No, Janet Jackson is a popular demand to be inducted so she lives to see herself in The Rock'N'Roll Hall of Fame...
She has received numerous Awards...Honored time and time again...
Janet is a living Legend...
Janet Jackson is not just a visionary, beautiful, talented, a great business woman and Humanitarian.
Janet Jackson is an ICON..
Janet Damita Jo Jackson deserves to have this Lifetime Recognition.......

Posted by Terence Brandes on Tuesday, 04/14/2015 @ 17:10pm

Please Induct Janet Jackson into the Rock'N'Roll Hall Of Fame...
Its about time Janet gets honored this Lifetime Honor...
She is a Multimillion world selling Artist..
She is the ONLY FEMALE ARTIST in Music history TO HAVE 7 TOP TEN SINGLES FROM 1 ALBUM AND 5 OF HER SINGLES ARE NUMBER 1...
She was Honorary Winner at the 1990 Billboard Music Awards...
Janet and Michael were the first siblings to have #1 Pop singles from Billboard in 1987 when Janet's Hit #1 song became number on the Pop charts for her single "When I Think OF you"..from her 1986 Blockbuster album "Control".
Janet is MTV'S 1ST Icon...she always a worldwide Humanitarian, Visionary, Choreographer, Producer, Dancer, Actress, and Janet is also a Grammy winning Songwriter of the year in 1991..she was the first woman in Music history to be nominated and won..for her 1989 Rhythm Nation 1814 album.
JANET DESERVES TO BE INDUCTED INTO THE ROCK'N'ROLL HALL OF FAME:)

Posted by Cheryl on Tuesday, 04/14/2015 @ 21:20pm

During its reign, Rhythm Nation 1814 shifted more than seven million copies in the US alone, sitting atop the charts for seven weeks in 1989 before becoming the best selling album of 1990.

It was the first album in history to produce number 1 hits in three separate calendar years (1989, 1990, 1991). Meanwhile, it's innovative music videos - including the iconic militant imagery and intricate choreography of the title track - were ubiquitous on MTV.

Oh - and Janet's first tour - the Rhythm Nation 1814 World Tour remains to this day the most successful debut tour by any artist (male, female or group) in music history!

#InductJanet

Posted by RumpShaker on Wednesday, 04/15/2015 @ 03:40am

I wish people stop comparing Janet to Madonna. Madonna is a unique artist in her own right. Janet has been in the spotlight since she was 7. Nobody knew who Madonna was at 7. Madonna is only 8 years older than Madonna. Madonna made her tv debut in 1984. You ask how would I know. I was 18 the same age as Janet. I believe that there is room for both women whom are trailblazers.

Posted by James on Wednesday, 04/15/2015 @ 05:35am

Madonna did not write her early hits at all. My last post I meant to say Madonna is only 8 years older than Janet. Lets nominate both women.

Posted by James on Wednesday, 04/15/2015 @ 05:41am

I agree, James. They're both very powerful women and the sexist NomCom seemingly can't fathom more than 1 strong female on the ballot at a time. Completely ridiculous!

Janet's continued snub becomes more glaring with each passing year. Surely, this will be Janet's year for an overdue nomination.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 04/15/2015 @ 05:42am

For those of you who are saying no, just because she is not a rock artist, clearly don't know that there are hip hop and rap artist as well as directors inducted

Posted by Prentice on Friday, 04/17/2015 @ 20:46pm

Janet Jackson sweet

Posted by Marshall on Wednesday, 04/22/2015 @ 20:26pm

So OVERLOOKED for too long. The scrutiny is harder on women and even harder on black women.
Janet is in my rock n roll hall of fame always.
Love you Miss Jackson. Because of you, I'm alive today.

Posted by Vincent Martinez on Sunday, 05/3/2015 @ 20:53pm

Did you know???

Janet Jackson was the youngest female artist (at the time) to receive the BMI Award for "Songwriter of the Year" for her brilliant work on the epic album, Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814. (1990)

Rhythm Nation 1814 sent seven singles into the Top 5 of the Billboard Hot 100, and 4 of those reached #1. That had never been done before - and still hasn't been repeated unless you count Katy Perry and Rihanna and their album re-releases.

Single Hot 100 position
Miss You Much #1
Rhythm Nation (single) #2
Escapade #1
Alright #2
Come Back to Me #4
Black Cat #1
Love Will Never Do (W/O You) #1
State of the World (airplay only, pealing at #3)

Posted by Marissa on Sunday, 05/10/2015 @ 14:02pm

SPIN magazine just released their list of the best 300 albums from the past 30 years. Janet has three entries:

234. Control
164. janet.
54. Rhythm Nation 1814

Here's what they wrote for Rhythm Nation 1814:
Forget Michael, let's talk about his baby sister - oops, the all-grown-up Miss Jackson. Sexy and self-assured and socially conscious' Janet's fourth album is jaw-dropping in the sheer number of hit singles it produced. The slinky, flirty "Miss You Much" is the apex of '80s dance-pop; "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" is an unforgettable anthem even without the iconic Herb Ritts directed video. And though the dream team of Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis turns everything to gold, Jackson was under-recognized for being the album's co-producer as well. In the process, she became as big a turn-of-the-decade star as Madonna, and maybe even a bigger one than her brother. - REBECCA HAITHCOAT

http://www.spin.com/2015/05/the-300-best-albums-of-the-past-30-years-1985-2014/5/

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 05/12/2015 @ 09:30am

If you think Janet Jackson should not be OK inducted Into the Rock and Roll Hall of then you are looking at music with your eyes closed.The Rock and Roll Hall of FameRoll Hall of Fame is not Created only for Rock artists but R&B,Rap,Pop, Blues and Country too. Too Not induct her because her roots is R&B is wrong. Give Janet her rightful place In history,she EARNED it!!

Posted by Michelle Mills on Sunday, 05/17/2015 @ 07:25am

And again - like clockwork. Janet receives dozens and dozens of back to back no votes. Clearly from one IP address. That should probably be investigated.

And quite frankly, I feel a little sorry for ya buddy.

Janet is getting in so vote no all you want!

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 05/20/2015 @ 03:12am

Oh, but on days when Janet's yes votes spike to over 150 out of the last 1000 it's just a bunch of different loyal fans all having the same idea to vote yes at the same exact time?

Sure, pal.

Posted by darius on Wednesday, 05/20/2015 @ 03:33am

Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, and Mariah Carey should all be put on the same ballot and let's see what happens. Maybe all three will be inducted in the same year.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 05/20/2015 @ 09:15am

@Darius-

Look pal. The Induct Janet Jackson into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Facebook page has 70,000 followers. You think 150 votes is out of the question?

Do the math, pal!

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Oh, but on days when Janet's yes votes spike to over 150 out of the last 1000 it's just a bunch of different loyal fans all having the same idea to vote yes at the same exact time?

Sure, pal.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 05/20/2015 @ 14:35pm

I'm posting this for those who doubt Janet's creativity in her music making process. And this all be solidifies her cultural impact to music. The proof is in the pudding.....

From Billboard.com
www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6568828/ask-billboard-janet-jacksons-biggest-billboard-hits?mobile_redirection=false

This past Saturday was Janet Jackson's birthday (happy 49th!) and it was us who got a present. "I promised you'd hear it from my lips and now you will," she teased. "This year: new music; new world tour; a new movement. I've been listening. Let's keep the conversation going."


As we wait for new music from Jackson (let's wait [only] a [little] while?), let's count down her biggest Billboard Hot 100 hits in a career that has resulted in one of the most impressive chart histories of any artist. She's one of just nine acts with at least 10 Hot 100 No. 1s, having tallied 10 between 1986 and 2001, while her 27 top 10s are tied for fifth-best all time (with Mariah Carey and Elton John).

And, with two No. 1s in the '80s, six in the '90s and two in the '00s, Jackson is one of just two solo artists with multiple Hot 100 No. 1s in three decades. The other: Her brother Michael, who notched two in the '70s, nine in the '80s and two in the '90s (not counting his four, all in 1970, as part of the Jackson 5, as well). (Combining Paul McCartney's work with the Beatles and Wings, plus his solo fare, he would also qualify, with 18 No. 1s in the '60s, eight in the '70s and three more in the '80s.)

Let the countdown begin … Here are Janet Jackson's biggest Hot 100 hits, from No. 25 to No. 1:

25, "Scream" (Michael Jackson & Janet Jackson), No. 5, 1995
24, "I Get Lonely" (Janet feat. BLACKstreet), No. 3, 1998
23, "You Want This"/"70's Love Groove," No. 8, 1994
22, "Someone to Call My Lover," No. 3, 2001
21, "What's It Gonna Be?!" (Busta Rhymes feat. Janet), No. 3, 1999

20, "If," No. 4, 1993
19, "Any Time, Any Place"/"And On and On," No. 2, 1994
18, "Come Back to Me," No. 2, 1990
17, "Let's Wait Awhile," No. 2, 1987
16, "Nasty," No. 3, 1986

15, "Black Cat," No. 1 (one week), 1990
14, "What Have You Done for Me Lately," No. 4, 1986
13, "Control," No. 5, 1987
12, "Alright," No. 4, 1990
11, "Rhythm Nation," No. 2, 1990

10, "Doesn't Really Matter," No. 1 (three weeks), 2000
9, "Runaway," No. 3, 1995
8, "Again," No. 1 (two weeks), 1993
7, "When I Think of You," No. 1 (two weeks), 1986
6, "Love Will Never Do (Without You)," No. 1 (one week), 1991

5, "Together Again," No. 1 (two weeks), 1998
4, "All for You," No. 1 (seven weeks), 2001
3, "That's the Way Love Goes," No. 1 (eight weeks), 1993
2, "Escapade," No. 1 (three weeks), 1990

And …

1, "Miss You Much," No. 1 (four weeks), 1989 :?

"Much-anticipated release from the Jackson sibling has all the trimmings for an across-the-board smash," Billboard correctly predicted in its Aug. 26, 1989 single review for "Much." "Hooky rhythmic pulse and memorable chorus." Also proven true: "First of what's sure to be many from the forthcoming Rhythm Nation."

Janet Jackson's Biggest Billboard Hits is based on actual performance on the weekly Billboard Hot 100 chart. Songs are ranked based on an inverse point system, with weeks at No. 1 earning the greatest value and weeks at No. 100 earning the least. Due to changes in chart methodology over the years, eras are weighted differently to account for different chart turnover rates over various periods.

Posted by Marissa on Wednesday, 05/20/2015 @ 14:43pm

Marissa really brought it with Janet Jackson support. The incredible amount of hits and success is impressive. I was always impressed with Janet's dancing, singing, songwriting. That's why the future rock legends forums are important discussing the artists. Marissa showed Janet Jackson does belong in RRHOF convincingly. JJ should be in for Black Cat alone. That song rocked! That's The Way Love Goes, Nasty Boys, Rhythm Nation other King FAVS. I think Janet Jackson has a good chance at nomination and induction. Other female candidates could be Stevie Nicks, Mariah Carrey, Pat Benatar, Carly Simon. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 05/24/2015 @ 16:10pm

Agreed, KING.

There have been some great articles recently heralding Janet's comeback and her overall impact to the music game. The below I came across from The Daily Beast is one of the best thus far.

Janet Jackson Deserves Our Respect: The Pop Diva and Sex Goddess Reclaims Her Throne

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2015/05/21/janet-jackson-deserves-our-respect-the-pop-diva-puts-the-rihannas-of-the-world-to-shame.html

"I promised you’d hear it from my lips. And now you will. This year. New music. New world tour. A new movement. I’ve been listening. Let’s keep the conversation going."

That was the message pop megastar Janet Jackson gave to her fans this past weekend. On her 49th birthday, the legendary Ms. Jackson announced from her website that she is returning to music after a quiet several years. It’s been seven years since her last studio album, 2008s Discipline; and four years since “Number Ones: Up Close and Personal,” her last major tour. The news of Janet’s return sent social media into a flurry. Fans had been wondering out loud what the six-time Grammy winner has been up to-there had been rumors for the past several months that she was working with her longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis. She’d tweeted that she would let the world know when she was good and ready-and this weekend, she did.

Since the announcement, fans and media have been asking whether or not Janet Jackson can pull off a successful comeback at this point in her career. Since her 2001 album, All For You, Janet’s missteps have been well-documented: from the infamous “Nipplegate” controversy during the 2004 Super Bowl halftime show, to the string of lukewarm albums that followed. Over the years, her album sales declined, she started and ended a high-profile relationship with superproducer Jermaine Dupri, was blacklisted from radio stations (due to Nipplegate), lost her superstar brother, starred in a couple of Tyler Perry movies, and got married to a billionaire. With Janet finally returning, everyone seems to question whether or not she can reclaim her place in pop music. But in all of the commentary, a very important point has apparently been forgotten:

Janet Jackson doesn’t have anything to prove to anyone.

From 1986 to 2001, Janet consistently delivered the best dance pop music of her generation. It was better than Madonna’s over that same stretch. It was even better than her legendary brother Michael’s post-Thriller output. That may seem like blasphemy to some, but with Jam and Lewis in her corner, Janet’s albums from Control to All For You were more thematically unified and fully-realized than well-crafted-but-inconsistent late ’80s/early ’90s MJ albums like Bad and Dangerous. With Control, she helped lay the groundwork for New Jack Swing (Jam and Lewis deserve as much credit for popularizing that sound as Teddy Riley or L.A. Reid and Babyface) and with Rhythm Nation, she delivered that genre’s most compelling and ambitious LP. For what it’s worth, Michael didn’t get hip to New Jack Swing until he teamed with Riley in 1991, which was five years after his sister and about two years before the style was dead. Whatever dismissals one can toss at Janet as a songwriter, it’s obvious that her albums were representations of her-even with Jam and Lewis handling the bulk of the music. The Velvet Rope is very much an album that feels introspective and brazenly personal.

But while other superstars of her era can release new music without scrutiny, Janet is being analyzed and dissected. Having announced her comeback, the news was met with skepticism in some circles. Talk-show host Wendy Williams had some “advice” for Jackson. “She should stick with her number ones, the songs that we know,” Williams said on her show. “Janet is 49 years old right now. She’s married to that billionaire WASP… she wants to put out new music but nobody bought the music last time. I think that this comeback is going to be impossible; she’s living in a Beyoncé/Rihanna/Taylor Swift world. The music-buying public barely buys and they’re young kids, they’re not us with mortgages and tuition.”

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 05/24/2015 @ 18:10pm

(continued from above - The Daily Beast)

“She needs to sit down and wait for Mariah, Britney and Jennifer to leave [their Las Vegas residencies] and do all the songs that we know the words to.”

Janet’s commercial lag isn’t all that unique. Most chartbusting superstars of yesteryear have experienced sales declines in the era of streaming music and illegal downloading. And great artists do age, with younger generations finding their own heroes to listen to. Prince hasn’t been the chart-topping juggernaut of his heyday in quite some time. But that doesn’t matter because he’s Prince. No one really cares if he doesn’t have a “When Doves Cry” or a “Diamonds and Pearls” dominating radio anymore; his legacy is as firmly set as Stevie Wonder’s or Neil Young’s. The Purple One has released six albums in the last 10 years and only two have attained gold status. Paul McCartney’s last two albums didn’t hit the gold mark, either. Similarly, the most recent albums by icons like U2 and Bruce Springsteen only garnered relatively modest sales. Madonna’s status as a consistent presence on the pop charts waned around the same time as Janet’s did; the Material Girl has mostly dominated just the dance/club charts over the last decade. That transition hasn’t led to any loss in Madonna’s status as the so-called “Queen of Pop.”

No one is telling those aging legends to stop releasing new music. We don’t seem to expect them to have to compete with their younger counterparts at all. If their die-hard fans enjoy the albums and the artists enjoy making them, they’ve earned the right to not be judged by the same standard as the hit-making pop star of the moment. Once a legendary artist has cemented their place in the canon of popular music, there is nothing left for them to do to affirm it. The greats don’t have to keep auditioning. They made the grade long ago, and everything they achieve now is just an addendum to their legacy.

So what does a “successful” Janet Jackson comeback mean? Battling the Beyoncés and Taylor Swifts of the world for pop supremacy? None of that matters. None of that is necessary. A successful Janet Jackson comeback simply means that one of the greatest artists of the last 30 years is back to doing what she loves and what her fans love seeing her do. Delivering a compelling album and an electrifying tour is all that matters, not sales or Grammys. She’s done all of that time and again. It’s past time to recognize that Janet Jackson is among the artists at the very top of popular music’s hierarchy. It’s past time to give her the respect she deserves. She doesn’t have to prove she’s still “hot” or “relevant.” She’s a legend. She should be in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She should be as heralded as Tina Turner. This return isn’t about her “proving” anything to us. She’s doing this for her. And that’s good enough.

With all the great music she’s given the world, she’s more than earned that right.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 05/24/2015 @ 18:11pm

The nomination committee claims that career influence on others is a main criteria for induction consideration. Well, here's a recent sampling of praise from the likes of Beyonce, Pink, Lady Gaga and more....

http://ca.hellomagazine.com/music/gallery/02015052216340/janet-jackson-comeback-7-pop-stars-she-influenced/1

Beyonce on Janet Jackson: "When I was younger I was in a dance group. We were called the Smooth Dancers, and we were straight up Janet Jackson. We did 'Rhythm Nation,' we did 'Escapade,' we did it all. We would win up everything at the competitions because we learned it all from Ms. Janet,” says Beyonce, who recreated Janet's iconic 'Rhythm Nation' costume for Halloween in 2014.

Pink on Janet Jackson: Not only did Pink flex her athletic prowess during a 2001 dance tribute to Janet, perfecting choreography from the videos for "Miss You Much" and "Rhythm Nation," but she also went on to name the singer as one of the artists she respects most on being named Billboard’s 2014 Woman of the Year. “You can't compare anybody to the Tina Turners and the Chers and the Sades and the Janet Jacksons. They’re lifelong legendary touring artists.”

Lady Gaga: Lady Gaga called Janet, “an unbelievable legend and such a talent; somebody that I really, really look up to.” And, having cited "Rhythm Nation" as one of her favourite music videos, has referenced it in works that include the video for 2010’s "Alejandro."

Christina Aguilera on Janet Jackson: Janet also counts Grammy-winner Christina Aguilera among her legion of fans. The "Beautiful" singer has referenced Janet as an inspiration in numerous interviews. “Janet never stops giving you what you want. She's an artist that will always be regarded as one of the best,” says Christina.

Rihanna: “She was the first female pop star I could relate to,” explains Rihanna, who has taken inspiration from Janet throughout her career—most notably on racier tracks like "S&M" and "Skin." “She still has power. I’ve seen her on stage, and she can stand there for 20 minutes and have the whole arena scream at her. You have to love Janet.”

Posted by Marissa on Monday, 05/25/2015 @ 14:52pm

There's really nothing to add. This buzzfeed article I wrote says it all. http://www.buzzfeed.com/jdjfan1814/what-makes-a-legendicon-popularity-or-impact-ja-w2xx

Posted by Keaston on Tuesday, 05/26/2015 @ 11:58am

Good stuff, Keaston! I'm sure you already are - but if not, be sure to check out my "Induct Janet" page on Facebook.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 05/26/2015 @ 12:06pm

There continues to be more and more support for Janet Jackson's induction. This is a great read.

http://hiddenunderheadphones.com/2015/02/07/the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-the-case-for-janet-jackson/#

The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is a highly debated entity. Since it's inception in 1983, there have been countless opinions openly floating around about its methodology, process, and, most abundantly, its list of inductees. We can nitpick every single artist who has ever been inducted, nominated, or snubbed and begin the debates over whether or not they're deserving, or who they should be inducted before or after, and so and so forth, but there’s been a circular motion to these arguments for 30-some years that seems unbreakable (they’re still fun.) While, on the outside, it may all just seem petty and obsessive, the fact remains that the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is just about the only measurable entity for cementing one’s contributions to music, an art form notorious for its widespread subjectivity. Award shows are definitive snapshots in time that only on a rare occasion hold long term relevance (Michael Jackson’s 8 Grammy sweep was his defining “King of Pop moment.” On the other hand, we can safely say that Christopher Cross, who walked away with all four major categories, will not be seeing a Hall of Fame Induction any time soon,) and other organizations are far too specific or not nearly noteworthy. When it comes to music, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is the endgame of all endgames.

I have been compiling lists of noteworthy snubs (See the 2014 Update Here) that feature artists who have been completely overlooked by the Hall of Fame over the years, inciting various levels of passion from their supporters and abhorrers, but there has seemingly been none more polarizing than Janet Jackson. I have to admit, it kind of caught me off guard. Obviously, as an artist with a huge, longterm fanbase, it makes sense that she’d have some rally towels SPINNING in her favor, but I was unaware that so many others would be so quick to write her off. Now, as an extension of my pro-Janet argument on my list of snubs, I’d like to take some time to really explain why this artist deserves to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame.

The best way to really make this objective is to see if she meets the criteria for induction. What exactly is this "criteria" that I’m referring to? Well, just like music itself, it’s a pretty subjective thing. I’m sure we could come up with exact measurements, (sales, chart hits, etc,) but none would ever create an even playing field for artists spanning over 60 years (and counting!) You have to kind of go with the gut CHECK on three major categories: popularity, acclaim, and impact. So let’s start with popularity; that sounds like the easiest one. In a general sense, people clearly have to know your music in order to quality for induction. Popularity is still kind of a difficult thing to measure, though. Some acts have made cosmic impacts on rock and roll without ever landing a top-40 hit, while, conversely, there are countless artists who have racked up a plethora hits that will never even be considered for induction. It doesn’t come down to size of fan bases, but it’s more about a general public knowledge (again, a gut CHECK kind of thing.) Regardless, it is actually impossible to deny Janet Jackson’s popularity no matter how you slice and dice it. She has a legendary run of hits under her belt, has a widespread fanbase, has been a huge concert-draw, and is, at large, a household name; Check!

Another easy one to quantify would be critical acclaim… just look at all of her reviews and ratings over the years. In summary, critics have been in Janet’s corner ever since she unleashed the highly-influential (we’ll get back to that) Control LP. That record has already been acknowledged by the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame (along with her classic janet. album) by making their list of the 200 Most Influential Albums Of All Time. Additionally, Rolling Stone has included two of her albums (Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 and The Velvet Rope) on their list of the 500 Greatest Albums Of All Time. She is a multi-Grammy winner, in addition to countless other awards, recognitions, and honors, so it’d be pretty difficult to say that critics haven’t taken her seriously as an artist. There you have it… as much critical acclaim as you’re ever going to be able to quantify. Check!

This also segues nicely into the third major criteria, impact. This one is a little harder to measure because “impact” or “influence” is sort of an “aftermath” type of thing. Some records are immediately cemented into pop culture, but some others hit the underground or select markets before truly being heralded by the general populous. It has been almost 30 years since Janet Jackson released Control (actually her third album,) so there has been plenty of time to really look back at her impact. We could take the time to really analyze what music was like before and after each of her major records, but the proof is really in the pudding with this one. The pudding here being the countless artists who have acknowledged her direct influence or have been considered a direct decedent of her work… Beyoncé, Aaliyah, Usher, Kanye West, Rihanna, Jay-Z, Lady Gaga, Justin Timberlake, Drake, Bruno Mars, Kylie Minogue, Britney Spears, even her brother Michael (you may have heard of him)… just to name a few. I’ll let that list speak for itself. Seemingly, the only recognition left to bestow upon her actually is an induction into the Hall of Fame. Impact? Check!

Ok, so we’ve established that she meets the criteria for induction, but it still seems like people don’t have an understanding of her career. First off, you have to really praise Janet for shedding the “Jackson” so successfully. Not that being a Jackson is by any means a bad thing… five of her brothers are already in the Hall of Fame (Michael’s in there twice!)… but she’s been determined to follow her own path. Taking “Control” was her mantra from the minute she fired her father as her manager straight through to today. For anyone who has any doubt about the determination and drive of this artist, please guess again. Additionally, it would be totally remiss to not bring up Jam & Lewis. They’re kind of the puzzle pieces that many are using to argue against her (“they did all of the work,” “it was their sound, not hers,”) but it’s more or less an empty argument. Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis (of The Time fame,) are a LEGENDARY production duo that helped get Janet on the map and change R&B, hip hop, and pop music as we know it. They, themselves, deserve to be inducted into the Hall of Fame. However, they were not Janet’s puppeteers. If you really want to simplify it, glance over the credits of any of her albums. You’ll see writing, production, and performance (and not just vocals, mind you!) credits on almost every one of the tracks. Jam & Lewis themselves have even acknowledged Janet’s input and artistry. No matter how you look at it, Janet Jackson has been in the drivers seat the whole time, and if that isn’t Hall of Fame worthy, then I don’t know what is.

Much like Madonna, who was instantly (and rightfully) swept into the Hall Of Fame, Janet was an artist existing in the pop world, and you can’t hold that against her. For one, being a pop star doesn’t have anything to do with your music, it has to do with your impact on pop culture. With her countless iconic videos, images, fashion, and performances, Janet Jackson is a pop icon, standing as Madonna’s only true peer, internationally speaking. However, Janet Jackson is a well-rounded R&B artist who has given us incredible hit after incredible hit to dance to, cry to, escape to, and make love to, unapologetically pushing boundaries and buttons along the way. If you strip away the excess of all of her pop stardom, the music actually still holds up incredibly. Her albums and hits have stood the test of time, and not only is her influence as present as ever, Janet is still a viable success to this day. If you really think about, Janet Jackson belongs in the Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame, and not because she has a fan base that thinks so, but because she’s EARNED it.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 05/30/2015 @ 07:38am

"Look pal. The Induct Janet Jackson into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame Facebook page has 70,000 followers. You think 150 votes is out of the question?

Do the math, pal!"


So where did all the 70,000 Facebook fans go? The law of averages would dictate that the totals should be fairly consistent with that many potential voters on any given day, yet here we are a few weeks later and Janet has a whopping 11 votes out of the last 1000. Clearly the spikes above 100 out of 1000 votes we see are a bogus manipulation of the statistics, probably orchestrated by 1 person or perhaps a small group of people.

Posted by Darius on Monday, 06/8/2015 @ 02:57am

Listen guys, Janet should be inducted but Janet really has never been thirsty about titles and receiving awards and you have to lobby for those things. Janet stands on her music as a true artist, she could care less how people feel about her, she has more integrity as an artist and as a human being. I like Madonna but she borrowed everything she has ever done from Grace Jones, Millie Jackson, later kylie minogue and the list goes on. Madonna is incredibly intelligent but doesn't have any true music talent, she is a beautifully crafted business plan that has been able to influence a great deal of followers by altering her appearances and honestly talking about being offensive, is the world better off "not at all". She continues to be offensive in a world that doesn't care but has changed nothing for the better if anything it's gotten worse because of her. Madonna lobbys for positions, she fights to be seen that is why she is successful and i applaud her success, i have fun with her. Madonna has a lot of fans but so did racism, it's a facade. Janet has never been influenced by Madonna, everything that Madonna has done was taken from people Janet was influenced by her parents, brothers, dorothy d, millie jackson, diana ross, mae west, grace jones and some others. If you are an artist or true musician you know that Madonna is not an artist but you have to admire her for her work ethic. When you speak on Musical influence Janet wins across the board especially when it comes to inspiring through music to be educated, to young girls and guys to be singers and dancers-beyonce, christina A, britney, justin t, neyo, usher, pink, mya, rihanna,kelly clarkson etc. i enjoy Madonna a lot but she is No janet Musically, Madonna just doesn't have the natural born talent but i am still proud of what she has been able to do with what she has and that is truly commendable.

Posted by real talk on Monday, 06/8/2015 @ 14:30pm

Janet Jackson became the first artist in music history to score a number one single on Billboard's Hot 100 in three separate calendar years - all from the same album. (and keep in mind this was way before the re-release gimmick with new tracks frenzy)

Janet Jackson's "Rhythm Nation 1814" produced a record breaking seven top 5 singles on the Hot 100 and four of those reached the #1 spot.

Here are the #1 singles that established the '#1 in three calendar years from the same album' record:

'Miss You Much' ascended to #1 on the Hot 100 in 1989.
'Escapade' and 'Black Cat' both reached #1 on the Hot 100 in 1990.
'Love Will Never Do (Without You)' climbed to #1 on the Hot 100 in 1991.

It's also worth mentioning that Janet STILL holds the record for the most successful debut tour by any artist in music history. Rhythm Nation World Tour, 1990.

http://www.amoeba.com/blog/2015/01/behind-the-grooves/music-history-monday-january-19.html

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 06/14/2015 @ 10:29am

Janet's comeback seems to be right around the corner. She and her team are working social media quite nicely.

She ditched the traditional record labels, created her own (Rhythm Nation Records) and appears to be bucking the system like she's done her entire career. Paying attention nomination committee?

This snippet just came out today. Granted, she's no Barbra Streisand but her voice sounds lovely. If this is what we can look forward to on the new album then her comeback is going to be just fine!

https://vimeo.com/130996196

Posted by Marissa on Wednesday, 06/17/2015 @ 14:35pm

Great read from billboard.com.http://www.billboard.com/articles/business/6641067/inside-janet-jackson-comeback-gamble-aging-divas

Ageism? hardly. With tour tickets selling briskly and a new album bringing major buzz, the 49-year-old bucks the trend.

Time can be cruel to the female pop star rounding 50. No matter how little her talent might diminish, under the spotlight’s glare, critics gleefully count ­wrinkles and listen for pitchy vocals in a way that rarely happens with male artists. Just ask Madonna, 56, or 45-year-old Mariah Carey, whose journeys into middle age have been ­challenging at best. Britney Spears, 33, Jennifer Lopez, 46, Celine Dion, 47, and Shania Twain, 49, already have taken the Vegas route. (Granted, Cher at 69 seems immune, but she’s the exception to most rules.) Can Janet Jackson, at 49, avoid the syndrome?

She’s off to a strong start. Since a May 16 online tease of “new music, new world tour, a new movement,” Jackson has rapidly reeled off news about the launch of her own Rhythm Nation Records (a worldwide partnership with BMG), her first studio album in seven years and the initial two legs of a world tour, starting Aug. 31.

Jackson’s new single, “No Sleeep,” rose to No. 5 in its second week on Billboard’s Adult R&B airplay chart -- her first top five hit on that tally in 11 years -- and the song will get added sizzle when the album version, featuring red-hot rapper J. Cole, goes to radio on July 23. But most of all, her 65-date Unbreakable Tour is selling tickets at a blazing clip. According to promoter Live Nation, 88 percent of the tickets on the trek’s first leg (Aug. 31 to Nov. 15) were purchased two weeks after going on sale; nearly 80 percent of the tickets for the second leg (Jan. 12 to March 9) were gone in two days.

After a long lukewarm period, it seems the world wants Janet Jackson back. Still, by diva standards, the Janet rollout has had a relatively low profile so far. Why? “I think there’s a desperation to a lot of the older divas,” says Jon Cohen, evp of recorded music at BMG US. “They’ve got to hit it out of the park. With Janet, if she doesn’t put out a cross-format smash right out of the box, people think it isn’t a success, but that’s not it. This was completely calculated.”

Indeed, initial talk of a “multiple Janet projects occurring simultaneously” goes back at least to 2010, according to one source who was working with Jackson at the time. Back then, she was managed by Kenneth Crear and it seemed that new music was imminent, having built up “so much good will” over the years that “you just had to mention her name, it didn’t even have to be anything of substance, and people would go ape-s---t.”

But then, following a 2011 No. 1s tour, Jackson effectively pulled a vanishing act, ­marrying Qatari ­billionaire Wissam Al Mana in 2012 and shelving those very endeavors for what, to longtime fans, seemed like an eternity. Enter Kathy Ireland. The model/­businesswoman took a vested interest in Jackson’s career through Sterling/Winters, Jackson’s ­management company, which is owned by Kathy Ireland Worldwide and run by ­president/COO Stephen Roseberry. Sharing management duties are Jaime Mendoza and Jessica Davenport of JDJ Entertainment, who, as a group, negotiated with BMG to lock down a recording budget for Jackson (to the tune of at least $500,000, according to an insider) along with a sizable marketing spend.

Alternative financing models are becoming the norm even for heritage artists once used to grandiose paydays. Jackson herself landed a record-breaking $32 million deal with Virgin Records in 1991. Nine years later, Carey commanded an $80 ­million contract for four albums. But Carey signed to Epic earlier this year for a more modest advance of $2 million, according to sources. Speaking to Billboard in May, Epic chairman L.A. Reid laid out the lay of the land: For Carey "to even be on the radio at this point in her career is a huge accomplishment," he said. "Because radio doesn't cater to veteran artists or legends. Radio caters to in-the-moment stars."

So what is a Janet Jackson album worth in 2015? She’s one of the most successful artists in pop history, having sold some 20 million albums in the SoundScan era, which began five years after her 1986 breathrough, Control. During that time, she's also notched 10 Hot 100 No. 1s (through 2001) and 27 top 10 singles overall, tying her with Carey and Elton John. Her last album, 2008’s Discipline, has moved a respectable but hardly blockbuster 456,000 units, according to Nielsen Music. Her Number Ones package released in 2009, meanwhile, has moved 273,000 units.

BMG, which is ­providing ­marketing and promotion while the singer retains ownership of the recordings, declines to reveal specifics about Jackson’s ­licensing deal, but an insider familiar with the company’s contracts says BMG tends to favor “small-money, short-term deals.” In Jackson's case: no advance but an attractive back-end (a 50/50 split).

The investment saw the singer through the last seven months of round-the-clock production with longtime collaborators Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis for an album that is eyeing a late September release.

Adds Cohen: “The project needs a level of money to protect it. Janet and her camp are extremely aware that it’s 2015 -- ­everyone is realistic about what record-selling and streaming mean in this era. Janet was very fair about the deal.”

It’s about the long view, says former Virgin president Phil Quartararo, who has a hand in steering Jackson’s current career path as a member of her extended “team,” and that means life for an artist beyond the “pop silo.” Jackson, he says, “has had such a vast career in music, TV and film; she’s not your average pop star. We’re going to work this record for a long time. It’s not something that’s going to come and go.”

Posted by Marissa on Thursday, 07/23/2015 @ 11:25am

Looks like about 50 straight no votes for Janet. Right while Rick V was posting. Back to back to back. And there were 40 straight no's on Friday night. Sure does seem odd.

Looks like Janet's got some folks running scared. Her nomination is inevitable. You can continue to fudge the numbers and drop her percentages. Janet will be nominated sooner or later.

Posted by DJ Jack on Sunday, 08/2/2015 @ 03:22am

JANET IS OVER DUE WE AINT GONNA GET NO SL333P UNTIL SHE'S INDUCTED AND IM DONE WITH IT..

Posted by sean gunsby on Saturday, 08/8/2015 @ 16:44pm

Three years ago, I made a prediction, that I had HOPED would never come TRUE.

Sadly, it HAS.

The prediction was that the RRHOF would use the advent of the newly-formed R&B Music Hall of Fame as an EXCUSE..

...NOT TO INDUCT CLASSIC R&B ACTS GOING FORWARD

For the most part, my fears have come TRUE !!!

WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE THAT WAY ??

WHY DOES IT HAVE TO BE ONE...OR THE OTHER....??

Why, after JANN WENNER HIMSELF...
ADMITTED PUBLICLY THAT ROCK AND ROLL WAS THE MUSIC OF THE BLACK MAN....

Are numerous, truly DESERVING, R&B artists...

BEING SYSTEMATICALLY SHUT OUT ???

Chaka Khan & RUFUS,

The Marvelettes

WAR,

The SPINNERS,

MARY WELLS,

JOE TEX,

and CHIC....

Have ALL been nominated...several of them over the LAST FEW YEARS...

And not a SINGLE ONE OF THEM...
Has received an INDUCTION...

While numerous OTHER R&B artists...

HAVEN'T BEEN INDUCTED ....

*****AT ALL !!!*****

JR.WALKER & THE ALL-STARS

BEN E. KING (SOLO)

JERRY BUTLER (SOLO)

BROOK BENTON

BARRY WHITE

HAROLD MELVIN & THE BLUE NOTES

JOE SIMON

THE STYLISTICS

THE CHI-LITES

THE MANHATTANS

DIONNE WARWICK

PATTI LaBELLE & THE BLUE BELLES/LaBELLE

THE DRAMATICS

THE WHISPERS

RICK JAMES & THE STONE CITY BAND

JANET JACKSON

THE DELFONICS

THE INTRUDERS

GENE CHANDLER (The Duke of Earl)

Do you mean to tell me that the R&R HoF....

DOESN'T THINK THAT ***ANY*** OF THESE ARTISTS
DESERVE TO BE ENSHRINED ??

ANY of them ??

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08/13/2015 @ 04:35am

...and what about....

THE COMMODORES ?

LOU RAWLS ?

JOE COCKER ?

THE POINTER SISTERS ?

ASHFORD & SIMPSON ?

WHITFIELD & STRONG ?

THE FUNK BROTHERS ?

THE BELMONTS ?

THE WAILERS ?

And then the "Hallowed Hall"....

says that it's time to MOVE ON...

and gives walking papers....
to the people MOST LIKELY to NOMINATE and INDUCT these people ???

...move on to WHAT ???

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 08/13/2015 @ 04:44am

Janet Jackson deserves to win this year....

Posted by Angie Holmes on Monday, 08/17/2015 @ 19:06pm

Janet Jackson's forte is definitely acting. She has been doing this since she was a little girl. I have enjoyed some of her performances. I think that she did an outstanding job of portraying former Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice in a SNL skit. I have no doubt that if she were to continue acting that she might win an Academy award someday.

However, unfortunately most of the public are only familiar with her striptease act during the 2004 Superbowl halftime show and her topless appearance on the cover of Rolling Stone Magazine and of course, her many videos where she dances.

Now that she is married to a Qatari billionaire, she does not really have to pursue her career any longer.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Monday, 08/17/2015 @ 19:45pm

As I had said previously. "Janet Jackson is a relatively good actress." Now, induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is a different matter entirely.

1. Has she been influential on other artists? Yes

2. Does she have a history of consecutively great albums? Maybe

3. Does she write her own lyrics?

4. Does she write her own music, or does she have professional songwriters write her songs for her?

5. Does she sing her songs, or lip synch, in concert?

6. Did Quincy Jones, or any other great producers ever want to work with her, because of her extraordinary talent?

Okay, Janet worshippers, convince me that your so-called goddess meets those criteria and provide me with substantiated proof and I will listen to your arguments.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 12:45pm

As I had said previously. "Janet Jackson is a relatively good actress." Now, induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is a different matter entirely.

1. Has she been influential on other artists? Yes

2. Does she have a history of consecutively great albums? Maybe

3. Does she write her own lyrics?

4. Does she write her own music, or does she have professional songwriters write her songs for her?

5. Does she sing her songs, or lip synch, in concert?

6. Did Quincy Jones, or any other great producers ever want to work with her, because of her extraordinary talent?

Okay, Janet worshippers, convince me that your so-called goddess meets those criteria and provide me with substantiated proof, from independent sources, not affiliated with Janet, or her production team and I will listen to your
arguments. Otherwise, I will not, under any circumstances whatsoever ever support her induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, period!

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 12:51pm

Oh, one more thing: stop voting against my favorite artists, or I will convince my numerous colleagues to vote against your artist. Thank you.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 13:09pm

3-5, you are wrong to demand as criteria. 3 & 4 certainly HELP make a case stronger, but it has never been, nor should it EVER be required that an artist write any, let alone all or even the lion's share of their lyrics-writing. There's no other way to say it, really, as any level of sugarcoating fails to make the point in a way you will comprehend: you are in the wrong to demand this. End of story, and no amount of verbal diarrhea from you that would impress even Penn Jillette makes you right to try and make that a criterion.

But Google and Wikipedia are wonderful tools and in ten seconds, you too can garner a list like on this page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Songs_written_by_Janet_Jackson

It may not be the 75% you WRONGLY insist upon, but yes, she does write songs.

As for #5, the answer is probably both. Sometimes, every singer or band has an off-night, where they aren't feeling the best. Or one of the songs the people love, the performers don't want to sing because it's one of their touger numbers. Some power through and sound like shit, thus disappointing their fans ultimately, and some cancel which is a logistical nightmare for the artist, the venue, and the fans, so lip-syncing once in awhile or on that aforementioned difficult song is just a fact of the industry. So she probably does a mix of both.

In response to your earlier comment, her wardrobe malfunction is probably the only thing YOU know her for, but that doesn't mean that's the only thing anyone knows her for. Heck, it's not even among the first five things that come to my mind when you mention her name. Stop projecting.

As for her producers, it's hard to say, we may never know for fact if it's her talent or her name. But one thing IS clear.... all of the Jackson siblings have had solo hits (except Tito, who lived vicariously through his sons that formed the group 3T). But six of them had very few, very short-lived solo careers. Jermaine's was middling to a degree, but with a good track record. That means of the nine, two of them were major standouts, with long-lasting careers and powerful name recognition. Do you think that's even possible without extraordinary talent, to rise to the top, especially from the position as the baby of the family, to outdo all but one of your sibs? Does that happen without talent?

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 13:15pm

Here is some real RHOF material.. She is at the top of her game for years... She co writes and produces.. Has a lot of control of her music and stage performance.. This is Her act ,, She more than a singer in a production group...This is what I am talking about....

Posted by RBFAN on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 15:01pm

Enigmaticus

Listening to some Pop Trash this morning Duran Duran. Usually agree on the Duran Duran Rush & Prog posts but don't understand this slight of Janet Jackson.

Janet Jackson has been very influential on the music scene. She should receive a nomination in 2015-2016 and will be inducted within next 5 years. With recent inductions of Madonna, Donna Summer, Joan Jett etc. Janet Jackson is at the top of female eligible artists with Stevie Nicks, Pat Benatar, Mariah, Whitney etc.

Like Duran Duran, Janet Jackson music has continued to evolve from Control which had a pop and dance flavor to Rhythm Nation a concept album with Rhythm Nation as a hit. Impressive dancing choreography and a nice mix of rock/pop hits. I remember the Janet album when I was in the military. Smooth songs like Sade. That's The Way Love Goes, Again.

There's really not much argument against JJ. Maybe, her voice couldn't break glass like Whitney or Mariah but there are many good singers who don't have that range. Marissa, Mike and others have documented several of Janet Jackson's hits, influence examples, and awards JJ has received. Wrong on this one Enig. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 08/23/2015 @ 18:09pm

Pitchfork.com recently released their "Top 200 Songs of the 1980s" - and it's quite a list! Janet Jackson has 3 entries.

#126. Janet Jackson - "Control"
At this point, it seems as if Janet Jackson and her longtime studio accomplices Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis were always the model for artist-producer synergy, twin forces forever meant to exist in tandem. Like most matters of pop, songwriting, and the industry, though, this theory appears to unravel with a bit with research. In fact, much of Janet’s breakthrough 1986 album Control was originally written for R&B singer Sharon Bryant, but she decided they were too "rambunctious." Yet Jackson, who was trying to put her bubblegum teenage years behind her, took charge of Control as no one else could. She wrote the toplines and arranged the complex vocals, which mix spoken-word, nonchalant rap-singing, and little iconic GIF-bursts of ad-libs. She helped with keyboards and synths. She reached into the Jam & Lewis machine and bent every part of it to her will, rearranging all the gears into a coat of armor. "Control" is the sound of Janet Jackson underlining her career moves, her decisions, her identity. —Katherine St. Asaph

#48. Janet Jackson - "When I Think of You"
This atypical love song is perfect for an album called Control: confident, crisp, precise. On "When I Think of You", Janet's lover sounds like a port in a storm, a talisman she can clutch when the world around her is spinning. Brash, blocky keyboard notes jump out from the back of the arrangement like external stressors, only to be constrained by Jam and Lewis’ ultra-tight rhythms: Nothing can penetrate her cocoon of affection. But when that initial giddy rush starts to sour, the appeal of something sturdier begins to reveal itself.

Janet hadn’t yet turned 20 when Control came out, but she had already gone through a marriage and an annulment. Taken another way, those same keyboard hits aren’t agents of chaos—they’re forces from within, the sounds of a heart trying to leap out of someone’s chest. It’s a delicate balance to strike: Janet is turning to her lover for calm, but she’s also trying to protect herself. "When I Think of You" isn’t overtly interested in sexual liberation or personal progression like the music of janet. or The Velvet Rope, but it’s a necessary precursor to those records. It’s defined by agency and predicated on action; it treats a healthy relationship as another element of self-care. That might not be a revelatory statement, but it’s another astute one from an artist who would go on to redefine the boundaries of personal satisfaction. —Jamieson Cox

#27. Janet Jackson - Love Will Never Do (Without You)There isn’t a modern analog for the fearless daring of Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 album cycle. Dressed in stark monochrome and executing choreography that resembled hand-to-hand combat more than traditional hip-hop dance, Jackson chased her 1986 breakthrough Control with a brash political gambit. "Love Will Never Do (Without You)" seems to hang back on the seriousness of Rhythm Nation’s social consciousness in favor of a simple song of devotion--though "simple" does this towering six-minute epic very little justice. Everything in the mix hits like percussion, and Janet’s voice glides coolly over top as she celebrates her lover while sneakily letting him know she could have anyone she wants. Beyonce stepping out in 1814 gear on a recent Halloween night confirmed what some of us suspected all along: Homegirl’s been taking notes. —Craig Jenkins

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 08/26/2015 @ 18:08pm

Thanks for posting that Pitchfork list. I hadn't seen it. Interesting Janet selections and it just goes to show how strong her back catalog truly is. I haven't participated in the "Essential Songs" area but Control is the only song of the three selected by PitchFork as 1980's standouts that FutureRockLegends deems essential.

Love Will Never Do (Without You) should DEFINITELY be included as one of Janet's essential songs.

Posted by Marissa on Friday, 08/28/2015 @ 16:29pm

New York Times review of Janet Jackson's opening night in Vancouver, BC.

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/09/02/arts/music/review-janet-jackson-unbreakable-tour-vancouver.html?_r=0

VANCOUVER, British Columbia -- A newly demure Janet Jackson started her
"Unbreakable World Tour" at Rogers Arena here on Monday night. She was dressed in white and covered, like her dancers and musicians, from shoulders to shoes. And she avoided one big subset of her songwriting: her salacious, sometimes kinky whispers. That left Ms. Jackson, 49, to play the many other, less titillating roles that have given her major hits and made her an enduring influence across pop and R&B.

It has been four years since Ms. Jackson toured, and seven since she released a studio album; she has announced the impending release of a new one, “Unbreakable.” In 2012, Ms. Jackson married a Qatari businessman, Wissam al-Mana, and largely disappeared from public view before resurfacing to tour. Her Vancouver concert included three unreleased songs and the insinuating “No Sleeep,” the first single from “Unbreakable.” The concert’s finale, a ballad with Motown roots, was presumably the album’s title song; it praised enduring love, announcing, “It’s unbreakable.”

In songs and videos as early as her 1986 album, “Control,” Ms. Jackson staked out possibilities that have been seized by many younger hit makers. Her songs with Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis, her longtime collaborators in songwriting and production, extrapolated from her brother Michael and from Prince — then seen as rivals — while adding the Olympian optimism of Diana Ross and her own increasingly explicit eroticism. But even her risqué details were usually proffered to a man she loved, making romance carnal.

In Vancouver, her “Unbreakable” tour set arrived as medleys that touched on as many hits as possible, grouping the songs by persona and tempo.

She was the woman taking charge (funk), the joyfully loyal lover (upbeat pop), the ballad singer, the woman left lonely (midtempo R&B), the party girl (dance club beats), the rocker (with guitar up front) and, in the end, the idealist.

She also established her hip-hop connections. The opening song, a new one about D.J.s and dancing, had Missy Elliott rapping (on video) in praise of Ms. Jackson, and Ms. Jackson’s “Any Time, Any Place” was updated with a bit of Kendrick Lamar’s “Poetic Justice,” which had sampled “Any Time, Any Place.” J. Cole, also on video, rapped on “No Sleeep.”

Most of the songs based their arrangements on the album tracks, propulsive and bustling. Yet when the band was pared back for ballads, Ms. Jackson’s exposed voice was still secure, never as delicate as she could make it sound. The rock songs included “Scream” as a duet with the voice of Michael Jackson; she belted it with a raw urgency.

Life is still a line dance for Ms. Jackson. For most of her concert, she was flanked by dancers in white who staked out geometric formations and usually echoed her every angular move: the jutting elbows, the quick head turns, the canted legs, the precise hip twitches, some of them familiar from the choreography in her old videos.

The dancers are her retinue and her troops, maybe even her cult, a vision of strength and solidarity even when Ms. Jackson was singing about one-on-one relationships.

As the concert neared its end, Ms. Jackson moved from the personal to the communal, summoning the staccato funk and calls for collective action of “Rhythm Nation”; suddenly, the number of onstage dancers more than doubled, all moving in sync.

Next came a new song: a ballad that marched its way toward an anthem, part U2 and part trance music. The video screens showed photographs of the poor and homeless, as well as a shot with a Canadian message, with a protester’s sign addressing the country’s prime minister, Stephen Harper: “Harper: No Tar Sands Pipelines.” Her dancers pumped fists in the air, and she sang, “We won’t accept excuses/We tolerate no abuses” and “Make this world a better place.” It was the virtuous Janet Jackson, the one who was always there.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 09/2/2015 @ 14:44pm

Stellar reviews continue to pour in for Janet's Unbreakable World Tour.

EW.com spoke with producers Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis about reuniting again with Janet and the new album:

"It's wonderful to be creating again with Janet,” they said in a statement. “From songwriting, producing, arranging, singing, dancing, acting, she deftly does it all and truly personifies the word ARTIST. Unbreakable is a gift to all of her fans who have steadfastly stood by her.”

Unbreakable is not only shaping up to be one of 2015's best -- it could very well rank up with her upper echelon of works like Rhythm Nation 1814, The Velvet Rope, janet. & Control.

#InductJanet #RockHall2016

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 09/3/2015 @ 16:24pm

MIKE

I would like to see Janet get inducted this year. Things are in her favor. Carole King & Stevie Nicks inducted already so I don't see 2 inductions for them. Whitney Houston & Mariah Carey might cancel each other out. It's possible Janet Jackson & Pat Benatar make the ballot together. Janet will be 50 in May and it's 30 years since Control. Almost like destiny. Black Cat is probably my FAV Janet Jackson song. That was an excellent song. She can dance and sing which makes her a good headliner at the RRHOF induction. KING

Posted by KING on Thursday, 09/3/2015 @ 23:21pm

I agree, KING. The timing definitely feels right for Janet this year.

Oh - and she rocks the heck out of Black Cat on this new tour. Janet's definitely got an edge...

Posted by Mike on Friday, 09/4/2015 @ 09:20am

The RAVE reviews for Janet's new album, Unbreakable, continue to pour in. Here's Time's review:

http://time.com/4057289/janet-jackson-preaches-resilience-on-her-ecstatic-new-album-unbreakable/

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10/1/2015 @ 10:33am

Great throwback article from the LA Times today. Ironically, written by former NomCom member Robert Hilburn.

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-janet-jackson-finally-learns-to-say-i-20151001-story.html

An excerpt from the article that should provide some food for thought for the naysayers out there...

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Jimmy Jam, who co-produced Jackson's two best-selling albums, seemed surprised in a separate interview that Jackson would worry about anyone suspecting she was some kind of pop creation. He, too, sees Jackson as a "strong, natural" talent.

"To begin with, when someone says, 'Well, she brought in a Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis,' you've got to remember that we weren't exactly (the hottest producers around.) We weren't Quincy Jones," he said in phone interview from Minneapolis." 'Control' was our first . . . smash. The same with Paula Abdul. It wasn't like Janet was (hiring) Fred Astaire. You know what I'm saying? She took a chance on all of us.

"So, the question (can be debated): Who raised who to what level? I think everyone benefited. I know Janet has taken our songs and raised them to a new level of success. Bottom line: none of it would have happened without her."
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Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10/1/2015 @ 15:57pm

***JANET JACKSON VS MADONNA:The DOUBLE STANDARD***

****JANET JACKSON****

As Arsenio would say, " Things that make you go "Hmmmm"....

Janet Jackson's career and her RRHOF induction chances are derailed by one "wardrobe malfunction", Yet, Madonna releases an entire X-RATED BOOK about "SEX" and SHE GETS INDUCTED.

"(Hmmmmm.....)"

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 10/5/2015 @ 01:58am

8 years is not a snub especially with more important artist being kept out longer.

Wardrobe malfunction - give me a break!

Let's talk about the real reason. The molestation charges against her

Is this Janice campaign supposed to make people forget?

Dragging his kids out isn't bad enough.

From what was coming out that there was abuse in the family - she was clueless to what was going on. Can you say enabler?

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/5/2015 @ 07:39am

^Nice to see you again, Enig. ;)

You continue to sound ridiculous.

Enjoy your day.

Posted by Mike on Monday, 10/5/2015 @ 09:56am

Let's see if E posts another 15 or so no votes this morning at 4 am back to back like they've every single day for the past 3 months....

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 10/6/2015 @ 21:48pm

Thumbs up to her nomination this year. It's her ninth year of eligibility, which isn't too bad (Chicago had to wait 20+ years for its first nod).

Posted by JR on Thursday, 10/8/2015 @ 09:58am

Psst......Madonna has been in it since 2008.

Posted by It's not about Madonna. on Saturday, 10/10/2015 @ 11:19am

Did I miss something? I assumed this was for the R&R Hall of Fame.
If so, most of you need to revisit that place. Madonna was inducted in 2008. She is already in the Hall. Duh.
Janet is a rocker with rock songs on several of her albums. The most famous (Black Cat) reached #1 on the Rock and Roll Charts in 1989/1990, when rock was still ROCK. So there you go.
She also has a slew of unbroken records by anyone. Even the most famous of Jacksons.

Posted by John on Tuesday, 10/13/2015 @ 19:00pm

With Unbreakable, Janet sends her seventh album to #1. Pretty incredible for an independent artist doing it without a record label.

Bucking the trend and setting the standard. Again!

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 10/18/2015 @ 09:17am

Janet Jackson is still breaking records on the charts and influencing new artists after 30 years of making major hit music. She is long overdue for this honor! She has more than proved she is worthy to be included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She is a part of one of the most famous, internationally known musical families in history and something would be a true injustice if she does not make it in, in 2016!

Posted by TicietheGreat on Monday, 10/19/2015 @ 17:16pm

Janet Jackson is still breaking records on the charts and influencing new artists after 30 years of making major hit music. She is long overdue for this honor! She has more than proved she is worthy to be included in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. She is a part of one of the most famous, internationally known musical families in history and something would be a true injustice if she does not make it in, in 2016!

Posted by TicietheGreat on Monday, 10/19/2015 @ 17:16pm

@TicietheGreat

Not to mention that "Unbreakable" just topped the Billboard 200 Album chart and is receiving some of the best reviews and critical acclaim of her career.

It's definitely time!

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 10/24/2015 @ 05:59am

Any chance the voters will pass on Janet Jackson?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11/14/2015 @ 07:29am

Anything is possible, Roy.

With "Unbreakable" debuting at #1 (her seventh #1 album, by the way) --- it'll be a bit of a surprise if she doesn't make the cut. Just my opinion, of course.

We'll know in a month. #InductJanet

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 11/14/2015 @ 08:55am

I think Janet is a shoo-in at this point... they'll induct her before they induct Chaka.

Posted by Tim on Monday, 11/16/2015 @ 02:36am

Janet's "No Sleeep" has risen back to the top of the Urban AC chart - marking a tenth week at #1.

Ironically, "Unbreakable" the follow up single rises to #10. Janet enjoys two top 10 hits on the same Urban chart this week.

#1 album (Unbreakable) and worldwide sold-out arenas for the Unbreakable World Tour only solidifies Janet's inductions chances.

Posted by Mike on Friday, 11/20/2015 @ 03:27am

25 Top Ten Hits , including 10 # 1's .
And THAT'S only in America !!!
Internationally, She has had far MORE !!!

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 12/1/2015 @ 18:38pm

I agree that she will be inducted, but number of hits and album sales aren't priorities with the Hall...

Posted by dmg on Tuesday, 12/1/2015 @ 19:37pm

Will Janet Jackson make it to 10 million votes before Rock Hall fan poll closes? December 15 is the last day.

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/4/2015 @ 07:52am

It's a shame they didn't address the tampered with fan votes. If there wasn't a 'problem' identified, why were they forced to place restrictions on their process to eliminate the bot voting.

They should have closed it weeks ago. It's mathematically impossible for an artist to catch up. Oh well. Guess the Hall will tout their record number of votes in the press and call it a day.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 12/6/2015 @ 23:09pm

Unbreakable by Janet Jackson continues to appear on many year end best-of lists. Pretty remarkable considering she's been on the music scene since the early 1980s.

Posted by Nick on Monday, 12/14/2015 @ 22:20pm

Janet's Hall of Fame credentials has to do with the fact that, along with Madonna, Cyndi Lauper and Whitney Houston, she helped to define the modern dance pop movement from the 1980s onwards, not only that but she helped to contribute to R&B's futuristic direction. Missy Elliott is a pretty good example of that. She has influence and her four albums between 1986 (Control) and 1997 (The Velvet Rope) definitely have artistic merit. That would stand out more than just how much she sold.

Posted by Tim on Tuesday, 12/15/2015 @ 00:32am

Pitchfork.com places Janet's "No Sleeep" in their Best Tracks of 2015.

"Even if she hadn’t re-emerged with her first studio album in seven years, Janet Jackson was already embodied in R&B’s 2015 landscape—the sound of her work with producers Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis was everywhere. Janet’s defiant spirit echoed in the likes of alt-R&B stars like FKA twigs and Kelela, her coos in more mainstream singers like Tinashe and Jhené Aiko, and in Carly Rae Jepsen’s recent work with another Jam-Lewis acolyte, Dev Hynes. Even the men amalgamating pop, R&B and rock—Miguel, Jason Derulo, and the Weeknd—worshiped at her altar.

When Jackson returned with "No Sleeep" she embraced her status as elder stateswoman. Rather than bend to the current trends of uptown funk and electronic hybrids (ground she’s already trod in her formidable catalog), she returned with an air of assurance, never needing to rise above the purr of pillow talk to set the mood. Working with Jam & Lewis to conjure this quiet storm, Janet also documented the wee hours of the night. She sings of a time that’s around "half past five," but here it’s a time where touch and feel is the realest of sensations. —Andy Beta"

pitchfork.com/features/staff-lists/9765-the-100-best-tracks-of-2015/7/

Posted by Marissa on Tuesday, 12/15/2015 @ 06:36am

I'm very surprised Janet Jackson was not inducted for 2016. She had plenty of support from Induct Janet plus the album and tour. Mark & Marissa made several valid points throughout this year discussing Janet's hits, examples of who she influenced, awards gathered, etc. This was a very strong ballot. Looks like it became a numbers game with the strict 5 inductees. Janet should be back on the ballot next year. Janet's still younger than most nominees and looking good. I feel worse for The Spinners and YES who are older. KING

Posted by KING on Sunday, 12/20/2015 @ 00:27am

Rolling Stone, SPIN, Billboard, Cosmopolitan, Pitchfork, Ebony and many, many others all have "Unbreakable" on their year end best of 2015 lists.

Janet's sold-out tour will continue a second leg through the USA and then hits Europe before returning to the USA for a third leg.
I'd venture a guess that we'll see Janet on the ballot again next year.

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 12/20/2015 @ 16:39pm

Robert Hilburn wrote a great piece for the LA Times: Janet Jackson Finally Learns To Say 'I'

http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/music/la-et-ms-janet-jackson-finally-learns-to-say-i-20151001-story.html

An important excerpt:
Jimmy Jam, who co-produced Jackson's two best-selling albums, seemed surprised in a separate interview that Jackson would worry about anyone suspecting she was some kind of pop creation. He, too, sees Jackson as a "strong, natural" talent.

"To begin with, when someone says, 'Well, she brought in a Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis,' you've got to remember that we weren't exactly (the hottest producers around.) We weren't Quincy Jones," he said in phone interview from Minneapolis. " 'Control' was our first . . . smash. The same with Paula. It wasn't like Janet was (hiring) Fred Astaire. You know what I'm saying? She took a chance on all of us .

"So, the question (can be debated): Who raised who to what level? I think everyone benefited. I know Janet has taken our songs and raised them to a new level of success. Bottom line: none of it would have happened without her."

#InductJanet

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 12/30/2015 @ 09:26am

Billboard recently released their Greatest of All-Time Hot 100 Artists. Janet Jackson ranks an impressive 7th on the list - notably ahead of her big brother and Whitney Houston.

Janet is in good company at the top of the heap - The Beatles, Elvis Presley, Elton John, Madonna, Stevie Wonder, etc.

Janet deserves another nomination in 2016. And this time I'm pretty sure she'll make induction.

Posted by Marissa on Thursday, 12/31/2015 @ 16:16pm

janet doesn't have the votes to be inducted i think she has a weaker voice compared to mariah and whitney her best cds were light years ago she might be nominated again but i don't see her as important as madonna and whitney were love whitney's voice have janet 50 on the 100 hall of fame criteria she's a taurus though that she will persevere to succeed can't count her out

Posted by vick on Friday, 01/1/2016 @ 23:49pm

Some great insight from producer Jimmy Jam on Janet Jackson's work ethic and creative involvement in her albums.

http://daily.redbullmusicacademy.com/2014/09/jimmy-jam-interview

Q: After the success of Control, Janet was still regarded as Michael's little sister and a one album wonder. Can you delve into Janet Jackson's work ethic and talent during the making of the Rhythm Nation 1814 album?

Jimmy Jam: She outworked most of the people we've ever worked with. Janet does all of her background vocals and not just the lead vocals. The idea with her has always been that she does all of her own vocals, so that it's totally a Janet record. If you think about the way we did the harmonies for this album, I think about the song "Love Will Never Do (Without You)," which had some of the most intricate harmonies, particularly at the end of the song, where things are overlapping each other.

There may be 32 tracks of vocals at that point in the song, where we would take a four part harmony and we have her do each note four times, which would be sixteen takes. If we had to put another part on top of that, we would do the same thing, so then there would be 32 vocal takes not counting the leads. We would do the backgrounds first to get her voice warmed up, so when it came time to do the leads it was simple, because her voice had warmed up. It takes a lot discipline and work ethic to do that. To me, the only person close to Janet in that regard is Ralph Tresvant from New Edition.

Once Janet goes in the room to sing, she is not coming out until she's done. She may be in there three to four hours or sometimes longer and we felt really bad, but she wanted to stay in there. So, she would work and hit every note. Sometimes, I would give her a harmony where the notes would be right next to each other and they would sound horrible. It just wouldn't work. I would say to her, "These two notes may not sound right until I get the next note on here, but trust me it's going to work." She said, "Okay. I trust you, Jimmy." She would sing it and nail it. Then, when we put the next note on it, it would be this harmony, and it would turn out crazy in a good way. Janet was totally committed and worked very long hours.

Away from the studio she was still doing the business of being Janet Jackson. She was setting up the tour, because she knew she was going to go on tour behind Rhythm Nation 1814. She was going through artwork and credits that needed to be done. There were several deadlines outside of the recording of the record. The other thing she did and I liken her to a fighter between fights, Janet loves food between fights, but when it came time to take those pictures and make those music videos, Janet would shut all that down.

She would work out every single day with her trainer, Tony Martinez. She would be on a limited number of carbs she could eat, and we could always tell when she was doing that, because she wasn't quite as nice as when she was allowed to eat what she wanted. [laughs] But she would work. We would watch her transform the last two months of doing the record. She would work so hard to lose the weight and there weren't any tricks involved. She would be in the snow running, or on the bike in the studio. She worked her butt off, so when you talk about work ethic, it's not only about what she did in the studio, but it was her handling the business of being Janet Jackson.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 01/13/2016 @ 05:38am

Another noteworthy excerpt:

Jimmy Jam on the early stages of Rhythm Nation 1814: When you're sitting in the studio for long hours, you tend to watch a lot of television. Back then, there were probably 50 channels. You had to have MTV, BET, VH1, and CNN. These channels were constantly playing on our TV in the studio. We would flip between MTV to watch music videos and CNN to see what was happening in the world. Somehow, it almost became a blur to us. We would see something tragic happening like a school shooting or gang violence. These images became one thought and Janet felt very strongly about addressing it. At that moment it was kind of a no brainer that this was going to be the theme of the album. "Rhythm Nation", "State of the World" and "The Knowledge" come to mind. We laid down those slick, hard beats and Janet brought the lyrical components and we'd all collaborate from there.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 01/13/2016 @ 05:44am

Rhythm Nation 1814 album intro:
We are a nation with no geographic boundaries - bound together through our beliefs.
We are like-minded individuals, sharing a common vision
Pushing toward a world rid of color lines.

Rhythm Nation 1814 album outro:
In complete darkness we are all the same. It is only our knowledge and wisdom that separates us. Don't let your eyes deceive you.

Posted by Marissa on Sunday, 01/24/2016 @ 10:13am

30 years ago today, the "Control" album was released. From that point forward Janet was no longer just considered "Michael's baby sister."

Social media has been ablaze all day celebrating the anniversary.

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 02/4/2016 @ 18:29pm

KING
The Voting Committee really blundered Mike not inducting Janet. 30 year anniversary for Control and Miss Janet turns 50 in May. Could have been a grand celebration in New York for Janet but not to be. I think she could be inducted in 2017. Can't think of many woman artists who can compete with Janet taking her entire package of singing and dancing. KING

Posted by KING on Thursday, 02/4/2016 @ 18:56pm

Some career standouts from Janet Jackson's resume.....(from the InductJanet Facebook page)

-Career spans five decades, beginning in the mid 1970's performing with her legendary family on stage and TV, and acting in shows like “Good Times”, “Different Strokes”
-Solo music career begin in 1982
-First female artist to have five back to back #1 albums
-Third artist in history (Behind Barbara Streisand and Bruce Springsteen) to have a #1 album in four consecutive decades.
-10 #1's on the “Billboard Hot 100”, along with more than 45 “Hot 100” hits
-Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 was the first album in history to place seven singles in the top five; four of which bolted to #1
-With “Rhythm Nation 1814” Janet became only the 2nd female in history (and the first female artist in the 90s) to have the best-selling album of the year.
-First female artist to sweep an award show telecast (The 1990 billboard awards) receiving 8 awards during the broadcast, and 7 awards after the broadcast for “Rhythm Nation”, giving her 15 awards for one album.
-Janet's Rhythm Nation 1814 world tour sold out across the globe and went on to become the most successful debut tour by any artist in history. (still holds true today)
-Janet has received the most “Billboard Music Awards” in history at 33 wins
-“All For You” was the first single in history to be added to every CHR, Rhythmic and Urban station in its first week in 2001
-Janet ranks second (behind only Aretha Franklin) as the female artist with the most #1's on the “Billboard R&B Chart”
-Janet was the first female artist to receive a Grammy nomination for “Producer of the Year” along with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis for 1989’s Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 set.
-She is the only artist in history to receive Grammy nominations that span multiple formats like Dance, Pop, Rock, Rap and R&B.
-Many critics praise “Control” and “Rhythm Nation” for bridging the gap between Pop, R&B, and Hip Hop genres. Creating a unique sound that still inspires music today.
-Janet has received 6 Grammy© Awards and 12 American Music Awards
-Unbreakable debuted at #1 in 2015, marking Janet's 7th #1 album
-160 million records sold worldwide

Posted by Marissa on Monday, 02/22/2016 @ 05:28am

Some career standouts from Janet Jackson's resume.....(from the InductJanet Facebook page)

-Career spans five decades, beginning in the mid 1970's performing with her legendary family on stage and TV, and acting in shows like “Good Times”, “Different Strokes”
-Solo music career begin in 1982
-First female artist to have five back to back #1 albums
-Third artist in history (Behind Barbara Streisand and Bruce Springsteen) to have a #1 album in four consecutive decades.
-10 #1's on the “Billboard Hot 100”, along with more than 45 “Hot 100” hits
-Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 was the first album in history to place seven singles in the top five; four of which bolted to #1
-With “Rhythm Nation 1814” Janet became only the 2nd female in history (and the first female artist in the 90s) to have the best-selling album of the year.
-First female artist to sweep an award show telecast (The 1990 billboard awards) receiving 8 awards during the broadcast, and 7 awards after the broadcast for “Rhythm Nation”, giving her 15 awards for one album.
-Janet's Rhythm Nation 1814 world tour sold out across the globe and went on to become the most successful debut tour by any artist in history. (still holds true today)
-Janet has received the most “Billboard Music Awards” in history at 33 wins
-“All For You” was the first single in history to be added to every CHR, Rhythmic and Urban station in its first week in 2001
-Janet ranks second (behind only Aretha Franklin) as the female artist with the most #1's on the “Billboard R&B Chart”
-Janet was the first female artist to receive a Grammy nomination for “Producer of the Year” along with Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis for 1989’s Janet Jackson’s Rhythm Nation 1814 set.
-She is the only artist in history to receive Grammy nominations that span multiple formats like Dance, Pop, Rock, Rap and R&B.
-Many critics praise “Control” and “Rhythm Nation” for bridging the gap between Pop, R&B, and Hip Hop genres. Creating a unique sound that still inspires music today.
-Janet has received 6 Grammy© Awards and 12 American Music Awards
-Unbreakable debuted at #1 in 2015, marking Janet's 7th #1 album
-160 million records sold worldwide

Posted by Marissa on Monday, 02/22/2016 @ 05:28am

What is taking so long? Janet Jackson should have been inducted years ago. There have been so many artists that have been influenced by her... not once has Janet ever been duplicated. She is definitely a legend... she has a phenomenal music career as well... no doubt about that. Like Nike, "Just Do It"!

Posted by Shan Lighty on Sunday, 03/20/2016 @ 08:27am

Seriously. Has it come to this?

Posted by Wow .com on Tuesday, 03/29/2016 @ 01:56am

Can you name the only artist in history to be nominated for a Grammy in 5 different musical genres? (R&B, Pop, Dance, Rock, Rap)

Answer: Janet Jackson

Posted by Marissa on Tuesday, 04/12/2016 @ 18:36pm

Janet Jackson is an inspiration to so many people. Her music is amazing.

Posted by James Majestic on Thursday, 04/28/2016 @ 20:59pm

It is almost impossible to leave the shadow of The Jackson's and then Michael. She did that in a huge way. Her music and influence is far-reaching...and will be for a long time. It is laughable that the public has to appeal to you for something that is common sense.

Posted by Anthony Evans on Monday, 05/2/2016 @ 18:41pm

Yes she needs to be inducted

Posted by Frank Ruggiero on Saturday, 05/7/2016 @ 04:21am

Without a doubt. And 2017 looks perfect for Janet.

Posted by Marissa on Monday, 05/9/2016 @ 00:18am

On this date back in 1990, BMI honored Janet as 'Songwriter of the Year.' At the time, Janet was the youngest female artist to receive that award.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 05/10/2016 @ 08:29am

Janet Jackson belongs in the Rock Hall of Fame. PERIOD. If you look at her body of work even with the Unbreakable album, you cannot deny that she brings relevance to the musical landscape, even with being out of the spotlight for more than seven years...there's nothing more for her to do or prove to anyone at this point going forward...after losing MJ and Prince, she and Madonna are the only ones left of the old guard, so induct her and let's be done with the talk...you cannot tell them or show them how much you love their music or performances when they are gone, departed from us, so do it now while they are alive and can appreciate it.

Posted by Anessia Horns on Saturday, 06/4/2016 @ 18:07pm

Please can you include 'Unbreakable' on to the Albums list.

It's terribly underrated and seriously packed with a diverse array of influence such as Soul, Funk, Rock, Folk, Ambient, Dance, House, Pop, R'nB and Adult Contemporary.

Posted by Gray on Wednesday, 07/27/2016 @ 14:15pm

https://vimeo.com/178292562/344bf92009

Janet Jackson | 100 Fans. 100 Reasons. #InductJanet.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08/15/2016 @ 21:16pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lc_z2yAw878

Janet Jackson | 100 Fans. 100 Reasons. #InductJanet.

Posted by Roy on Monday, 08/15/2016 @ 21:18pm

That fan-made video for #InductJanet is pretty amazing.
What a solid campaign! They just continue to do everything right!

Posted by Marissa on Tuesday, 08/16/2016 @ 03:09am

There's no reason why this woman shouldn't be inducted!! Her career is everlasting (rich with hits and number 1's over 4 decades) and countless awards!! Honor this legend while she is still living because we all know tomorrow isn't promise.

Posted by C on Tuesday, 08/16/2016 @ 12:43pm

Creative impact and influence: Janet Jackson released the first 'visual album' concept back in 1989 with Rhythm Nation 1814. Many seem to forget that. And it was a HUGE risk that A&M label executives weren't too thrilled about.

We need to give credit where credit is due. #InductJanet

http://www.thelegendspanel.com/janet-euphoria/flashbackfriday-janet-jacksons-rhythm-nation-the-first-visual-album

Posted by Mike on Friday, 08/19/2016 @ 08:32am

Janet Jackson, where does one even begin? Rather than type a book, I will just say, Janet has earned her place in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Janet's influence on the music industry, her accomplishments in the industry, her influence on today's artists, her talent,her ability to compose, write, then bring it all to life through her amazing dancing skills, Janet's impact is immeasurable. In 2016, an album she released over thirty years ago is still referenced for it's greatness.(Rhythm Nation)Janet's presence will validate what I consider the Rock Hall to be, An institution where America's greatest are listed.

Posted by Brenda on Thursday, 09/1/2016 @ 16:53pm

I think Janet has done more than enough to get inducted. Plus, if her contemporaries Madonna & Michael Jackson have already been inducted, then why not Janet?

Posted by Christian on Tuesday, 09/13/2016 @ 17:07pm

http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/28/entertainment/janet-jackson-baby-photos/index.html

Did Janet Jackson just confirm her pregnancy?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09/28/2016 @ 20:49pm

Janet is a LEGEND. Janet's videos were ground breaking and she has influenced so many current artists. Her albums are classics and not to mention her elaborate tours. Janet deserves to be inducted.

Posted by Mike on Monday, 10/3/2016 @ 08:42am

Janet Jackson received an American Music Award nomination this morning. Favorite Female Artist - Soul / R&B

Posted by Mike on Monday, 10/10/2016 @ 16:04pm

Janet is definitely having a fantastic Fall season. First, her long overdue and very happy pregnancy news.

Second came the exciting news of the American Music Award nomination in the Best Female Artist - Soul / R&B category. If Janet takes home the trophy, this will be her 12th American Music Award.

And then this past week, she gets the news of a second straight nomination for the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame. This one is absolutely thrilling for her fans and the #InductJanet movement. Sure hope she's proud ---- and certainly hope she's inducted. Very, very, very well deserved.

Posted by Mike on Monday, 10/24/2016 @ 06:32am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXkRhv0b6NU

The music for Let's Wait Awhile was taken from the song Daisy Jane by America. Janet also says "slow it down" at the 4-minute mark of the song, the way Ralph Tresvant says it in the New Edition song "Cool It Now."

And I thought Janet Jackson's borrowing and sampling days started with "If" - using the Supremes opening to Reflections.

Last year my ears finally caught on to the fact that Rhythm Nation borrows from a Sly and the Family Stone song.

Does Come Back To Me borrow from anywhere?

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11/5/2016 @ 19:38pm

http://songhall.org/news/entry/songwriters_hall_of_fame_2017_nominees_for_induction_announced

Jimmy Jam & Terry Lewis are nominated for the 2017 Songwriters Hall of Fame.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 11/5/2016 @ 20:33pm

Janet has more longevity than Madonna. She has been dancing and singing on stage since she was 7. They started around the music scene around the same time. Janet is still rocking at 50. She will be like a Tina Turner of our generation. Madonna is an icon in her own right. I love Madonna. Madonna is the last of the icons born in the same year as Michael Jackson and Prince. Janet deserves to be inducted. She is still a living icon and performing. We won't see this level of entertainment again. Let more women be nominated for this special honor. Start with Janet.

Posted by James on Thursday, 12/8/2016 @ 06:52am

Anybody know who the first African American female was to be nominated for Producer of the Year - Grammy category?

Posted by Marissa on Sunday, 12/11/2016 @ 21:10pm

@Marissa

That would be Janet Jackson. She received the Producer of the Year Grammy nomination in 1990 for the epic "Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814."

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 12/13/2016 @ 06:09am

Janet snubbed again this year. Unbelievable. I guess I shouldn't be all that surprised, though.

Posted by Christian on Thursday, 12/22/2016 @ 18:45pm

Janet announced earlier this week that she and hubby welcomed a baby boy to the world. Exciting news to start the new year. She's going to be such a good mom!

Looking forward to what's next for Janet.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 01/7/2017 @ 07:26am

There have only been six female Grammy nominees in the Producer of the Year category. Who was the first?

Janet Jackson - for Rhythm Nation 1814

https://www.grammy.com/news/the-producer-of-the-year-category-turns-40

Posted by Mike on Friday, 02/24/2017 @ 06:07am

She deserves to be in!! 😃

Posted by Karla Marrone on Thursday, 03/9/2017 @ 08:43am

A third straight nomination for Janet Jackson seems likely.
Will the third time be the charm?

Posted by Christian on Thursday, 04/27/2017 @ 08:14am

It's time...

Posted by tells on Sunday, 05/14/2017 @ 18:54pm

It's an emphatic Yes!

Posted by KHudson on Saturday, 07/29/2017 @ 18:17pm

So many Janet fans are cult-like. Its all only about Janet. Janet is like royalty, and every other artist is below her. Do these fans see her in context, or are they single-focused? What is she really? Michael was rightfully "King of Pop" ... but she is not queen of anything musically. Does she belong in the Rock Hall? I say, meh! Meh means who cares! She was a good artist, but really, no need for a pedestal, please! Fanbase stop worshipping your idol. Its tedious. Janet did not change musical history. And stop going on about her being a "woman" producer. Who cares about that!

Posted by Prissypuss on Wednesday, 08/30/2017 @ 03:52am

You sound like you need a hug,, sour puss.

Did you know that only 5 females in history have received a Grammy nomination in he Producer of the Year category?
That's why it's a worthy part of the conversation. (Janet was the first)

Janet will be inducted. It's only a matter of time.

Posted by KHudson on Wednesday, 08/30/2017 @ 05:08am

Maybe Janet will get in (probably will). Absolutely I know about her being a "female" producer, if I can believe what is written here many times. Do you vote No on every other artist, and only Yes for your idol? Why all the No votes surrounding the Janet Yes votes? Her rabid-ass fans is why. Do I need a hug, KHudson? Not really. But I could do with a lot less cowbell from airbrain Janet nation.

Posted by Prissypuss on Wednesday, 08/30/2017 @ 05:38am

Me not like Janet buttheads.

Posted by Dick on Tuesday, 09/12/2017 @ 21:37pm

Wth was she thinkin' showing her boob at the Superbowl half-time! But she had on a nipple "shield", is that right? Dag! She shor supprized my boy JT with her liddle antic. Nipplegate! Some a you all Janet fannies like dat, huh? But many did not! Family values!

Posted by Dick on Thursday, 09/28/2017 @ 03:36am

Dick,
I watched Timberlake reach Janet’s to remove a piece of the costume. Janet didn’t expose her breast. Justin did!

As a true class act, she took the heat while her ‘friend’ continued to throw her under the bus again and again. Caucasian privilege in action And it worked. Janet was blackballed from all Clear Channel pwned radio stations.

Justin's album soars to the top and has a solid run.

Inviting that punk to perform at the the Super Bowl halftime. If he shows - she shows. Wake up people. Protect our women. Especially our African American woman!!

Posted by KHudson on Friday, 11/10/2017 @ 02:14am

Janet Jackson is the blueprint of music, art, dance, and raising cultural awareness through her music. Her artistic talent is long overdue and

Posted by Aiukli Choctaw` on Monday, 12/18/2017 @ 07:38am

It’s ridiculous that Janet Jackson is still waiting for induction.

The bias against female artists by the Hall’s voting committee is embarrassing. And it’s even worse for African American female artists. On the plus side for this latest induction cycle is the addition of Nina Simone and Sister Rosetta Tharpe.

Janet needs to be next.

Posted by Terrence on Sunday, 01/14/2018 @ 07:47am

Why does Madonna get inducted on the first try, but not Janet Jackson?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01/14/2018 @ 08:37am

Why does Madonna get inducted on the first try, but not Janet Jackson?

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 01.14.18 @ 08:37am


It's called having the respect of your peers.




Janet Jackson is the blueprint of music, art, dance, and raising cultural awareness through her music. Her artistic talent is long overdue and

Posted by Aiukli Choctaw` on Monday, 12.18.17 @ 07:38am

Where did this come from? According to Beyonce it was TLC that set the model for r&b female artist.


t’s ridiculous that Janet Jackson is still waiting for induction.

The bias against female artists by the Hall’s voting committee is embarrassing. And it’s even worse for African American female artists. On the plus side for this latest induction cycle is the addition of Nina Simone and Sister Rosetta Tharpe.

Janet needs to be next.

Posted by Terrence on Sunday, 01.14.18 @ 07:47am


Show me how you got that African American women get less respect than women of European descent.

What do you think is a fair breakdown?

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 01/14/2018 @ 10:34am

First of all, I would like to say congratulations are in order for Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis on their induction into the Songwriter’s Hall Of Fame.

Secondly, I would like to explain some of the many reasons why Janet Jackson has not received a third nomination.

1. She lacks cross-over appeal. Outside of her narrow demographic which so happens to appeal to young gay men, pop music critics and girls whose heyday was in the 1980’s, but are now in their 40’s, who else does her work really appeal to?

2. There are still far more important artists who have not yet been inducted. Think of it this way, there are many more far more important artists that the Rock Hall has not yet even recognized, or nominated. For example, if The Moody Blues, the fathers of PROG, which happens to be a very important genre, are just now getting into the Rock Hall, do you really think that an artist like Janet isn’t going to be on a
very long waiting list.

3. Others have agreed that she has not really done anything that innovative. Innovation is one of the many criteria that the Rock Hall utilizes, in order to evaluate the worthiness of inductees.

4. Although Janet Jackson is a very good actress and that is definitely her forte, her followers think that she’s the greatest thing since sliced bread, voting against any of the artists who might happen to get more votes due to their appeal. This happens to annoy a lot of people.

5. She has absolutely inspired an entire generation of lip synching dancing divas. If you like that kind of thing that’s fine, but most of us would rather see a performance by an artist who has absolutely mastered his or her musical instrument, instead.

6. Her awards are industry awards. I used to think that the Grammy awards were very significant, but after hearing about the artists who have received Lifetime Achievement awards, I am quite doubtful.

7. Her work does not resonate with a large portion of the voting population, on a whole. Therefore, the fan vote, which is now an indicator of her appeal indicates that she has very low appeal among the general populace. Perhaps, this is due to her antics in the 1990’s or perhaps even the infamous “wardrobe malfunction” incident. In any event, it turns voters off.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 01/14/2018 @ 13:27pm

Enig:

1. What you are describing is not "crossover appeal." Janet Jackson had incredible crossover appeal between the dance, R&B, and pop markets. What you're describing is more about music enduring throughout time. Admittedly, Janet is a little bit lacking in that regard to a degree, but then again, so are most artists who first rose to prominence during the late '80s and early '90s before Nirvana and Jay-Z changed the musicscape irreversibly. Funny enough too, that except for Pink Floyd and Rush, prog suffers quite a bit from this as well.

2. There are also several less important artists than Janet who have already gotten in. Rock Hall merit doesn't need to follow a chronological layout for her to get in or be denied. And just because you keep repeating that prog is a "very important genre," that doesn't necessarily make it so.

3. Hobbyists like us use Innovation a lot more than the Rock Hall actually does. Their primary metric is "Unquestionable musical excellence," remember? And there are those who do call her an innovator, particularly in regard to New Jack Swing. That doesn't mean as much to me as I'm probably making it sound; my point is simply that she is not without innovation merit.

4. "[H]er followers think that she’s the greatest thing since sliced bread... This happens to annoy a lot of people. "---My irony detector just burst into flames.

5. Don't blame the great for the knockoffs. "Spin" magazine once listed the album "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" as one of the 50 worst things to happen to music because of all the copycats and wannabes that ensued, inspired by the genius of the Beatles' offering. It was a stupid reason for that list, and it's a stupid thing to say now. Also, the voice is an instrument. Don't be dissing a musician just because they are primarily, or even solely a singer. They have every right to be called a musician as a guitarist, pianist, drummer, or trumpeter. And honestly, the Hall probably cares more about getting a performance, period, at their ceremony than presumed masters and geniuses who can't put aside their egos or vendettas for the damn night.

6. And just which particular Lifetime Achievement Grammy Award recipients make you doubtful? I doubt they've gone and handed one to Percy Sledge, after all. Just because they're artists you don't care for doesn't mean they don't deserve a Lifetime Achievement Grammy.

7. Her work does resonate with a different, but still very large portion of the voting population too. This is a completely useless thing to say, validated only by the A] the fact that she hasn't gotten in yet, and B] the Hall's lack of transparency.

Posted by Philip on Sunday, 01/14/2018 @ 19:16pm

Both, Chaka Khan and Janet Jackson got enough votes in 2015 to get nominated again in 2016.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 05:26am

Chaka Khan is highly respected for her vocal ability. Go check out her credits on all music. Look at all the artist across age groups and genres that want to work with her.


By comparison who wants to work with Janice?

Barely anybody

Roy shame on you for even trying to belittle Chaka Khan. This is just as bad as you trying to sneek non-rock sales numbers with the Bee Gees.

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 05:50am

Correction: the name is Janet. Miss Jackson if you're nasty.

If "who wants to work with her" apparently is a factor to measure singing quality, here follows a list of some of the people who have worked with Janet Jackson:

Michael Jackson
Justin Timberlake
Luther Vandross
Joni Mitchell
Carly Simon
Herb Alpert
Missy Elliott
Puff Daddy
Shaggy
Q-Tip
Busta Rhymes
MC Lyte
Blackstreet
Jermaine Dupri
Beenie Man
Jam & Lewis

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 07:39am

I wasn't belittling anything. I was stating facts. They were both nominated the same year and they both got enough votes to be nominated again the following year. FRL needs to fix their numbers on some of the nominees pages. They are posting the induction year as the nomination year.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 07:56am

I think Ms. Jackson has done enough to get in.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 09:52am

Claw

Now compare that small paltry list to Chaka Khan's list.

Chicago

Peter Cetera

Eric Clapton

George Benson

Kenny G

Ry Cooder

Robert Palmer

Quincy Jones

Luther Vandross

Miles Davis

Vince Guaraldi

Andraé Crouch

Herbie Hancock

Incognito

Beverley Knight

Tom Jones

De La Soul

DJ Marky

Etta James

Big Mike

Aaron Neville

Mary J. Blige

B.B. King

Average White Band

Joni Mitchell

Rod Stewart

Brandy

Stephen Bishop

Peabo Bryson

Questlove

Shaggy

Lenny White

Ashford & Simpson

Barry White

Ray Charles

Queen Latifah

Bruce Hornsby

Steve Winwood

The Manhattan Transfer


Just so you know this is only a partial list

Now can you see why Janet falls so short

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 10:01am

Paul

What exactly has she even done that makes her deserving.

do a bit of googling and you will find that her fan sites don't care about her getting into the hall

lip syched dance shows have nothing to do with rock and roll.

No matter where you put here there are hundreds more that are more deserving and have actually made an impact


Quite frankly from what I have seen the induct jj campaign is funded by family dollars to hire publicity teams to spam the internet on her behalf

From a stat outlook there were too many funny things happening with her voting rates.

1 there were points that her numbers moved 2 to 3 xs faster than any other artist and then barely moved at all for certain periods. points outside of 2 standard deviations are called outliers and are considered red flags that scream that something is wrong here and needs to be investigated.

2 post tantrum near shutdown of vote movement - this is not normal fan behavior and is more consistant with a paid for publicity team

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 10:20am

I think she's deserving. One of the biggest stars of 90s & early 00s. Not 1st ballot, but deserving.

Posted by Paul in KY on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 12:44pm

Paul

I really have a problem with I thinks because so many can not back it up.

I showed that Chaka Khan had impact - look at those names. Some of them are legends. JJ does not have that.

What happened to popularity does not count? I heard it enough with Chicago. At least I could point out that it was a well known fact that RS did not like them. Hell even after induction they still insist on calling them a jazz rock band.

She didn't innovate. Only a small handful of artist consider the dance show an influence and she was a follower not leader in this.

Again according to Beyonce TLC set the mold for r&b female artist - not jj.

Her name was out their in the 90's but I think it's pushing it a bit to say she was one of the biggest artist of the 90's

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 13:28pm

Zuzu - Your clear disregard for Janet's musical style colors your analysis of her impact and innovations.

I'm not a fan of modern dance pop; but I don't let that play into my analysis of which artists from that subgenre are worth of HOF induction.

You say Janet was not innovative; I counter with the fact that if you look up the term New Jack Swing, you will find that the history of that style starts with Janet Jackson, and her breakthrough album Control.

Like many, you seem to dismiss that Janet Jackson can be legitimately considered "Rock and Roll" - which ignores the historical lineage of her musical approach. It buys into the fallacy that Rock and Roll is primarily defined by the redefinition that took place in the music industry after the British invasion, with the advent of "Hard Rock" which then got simply called "Rock". And suddenly R&B couldn't be considered Rock and Roll even though Chuck Berry and Little Richard were originally "R&B acts" before Rock And Roll came to be a marketable term for their music; and pop music couldn't be considered Rock and Roll even though Elvis and The Beatles were huge pop acts.

If you break down where the term Rock And Roll comes from, who were the original Rock and Roll bands, and study how modern music evolved from those roots. Janet Jackson is R&B; and she is pop, but as a pop star she is not a descendant of traditional pop such as Doris Day or Frank Sinatra - Janet Jackson is an obvious musical descendent of James Brown; and therefore she is a descendent of Rock and Roll.

Based on her career, the longevity of her success and the strength of that success; her influence on the music of her time and the music that has come out since; I believe that if it wasn't for the fact that Janet Jackson was the younger sister of the Jackson family; if her last name wasn't Jackson, then she would have gone in to the Hall Of Fame every bit as easily as Madonna did. But with that name hanging over her, she never gets the credit for the career she built by *breaking away* from the "control" of that family
to chart her own course.

I don't want to listen to her music; but I don't want to listen to Bon Jovi either and he's headlining this year's class.

Posted by Shrek on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 14:29pm

Shrek

You are picking up on my disdain for almost the entire Jackson family.

Like too many you think r & r is all music forms. What I call rbist ideology. I'm 59 years old so what a lot of what is history for is a part of my life experiences.

r & b does not equal r & r so no that does not in any form make her r & r

Dance show - dance show - not dancing - big difference

you might want to go away from the propaganda sites and actually look up modern free form dance

jazz - not r & r it comes more from beat culture.

go watch West Side Story for an example

it may be called free form but it still choreographed. R & r is not choreographed.

Shrek give me a break on the classic rock bs

There was no british invasion and rock was born

there were various genres coming together fo make rock - - just like r & r primarily came from the Blues but was a pot luck of several genres to form a new genre

for the record metal punk and prog are not rock.
As someone old enough to remember the lay out in a record store hard rock was only 10% - sodo not insult me by telling me what is and what is not rock. I was there - were you?

r & b but no mention of folk or country - sounds prejudicial to me

check your history you will see 2 way streets not one way streets there is historical evidence of cultural influence between those of European and African heritage. Take a look at what was going on in Chicago during the 60s you might be in for some surprises


now music is an art form - all great art is universal - meaning that there is something embodied in the art that speaks to almost everyone.

look at who worked with j j compared to Chaka Khan

jj has barely any roots and a very small list of influence based on a very narrow band - that does not speak well for work being viewed as worthy by her peers. Again look at the breath and depth of the artist wanting to work with Chaka Khan - that says her art is considered worthy across a large spectrum.

This is not based on my personal tastes. I am analyzing based on artist reaction to both.

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/16/2018 @ 18:10pm

Just to clarify: I created my list in 3 minutes time and never suggested that it was a full list. Furthermore, it doesn’t really prove anything. A short list could be because a person that not many people want to work with. It also could be because that person has a full agenda being an international superstar and all, and therefore doesn’t have much time. But breadth and depth? Not a large spectrum? My list included Herb Alpert, Joni Mitchell, Luther Vandross and Shaggy.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 02:15am

Full agenda - Int'l superstar ??? Now Claw that is really pushing it. Somehow even the busiest manage to work with others,

I've looked at her list and you have a couple of names that aren't there and maybe 2 major ones

Claw there is barely any depth.

I found this to be a pretty good indicator

you need to face the old guard to be inducted

other than her family only a couple of artist and the same is true for contemporaries

only younger artist - not good

Everybody needs help getting up

Now ask yourself why nobody but family wanted to help

Posted by Zuzu on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 04:22am

I totally think Chaka Khan should be in the HOF as well by the way; I'm not sure why its some sort of competition between her and Janet; other than the fact that Janet is the bigger star in modern pop culture and has a bigger and louder fan push for her induction. they both bleong in for differing reasons - Chaka Khan because of her absolute musical excellence and her inspiration on a generation of following singers; Janet for her musical style innovations (which I don't find excellent personally, but that I recognize) and the overall length and depth of her success and her career inspiration on many following pop stars.

i base my view of "what is Rock And Roll" by starting with Alan Freed; because he is the one that created the term. It's his term - if you don't start with him, you aren't talking about Rock and Roll; you are inventing something new and coopting a name somebody made famous. His definition of it was very broad from the beginning as seen by the diversity of artists that he applied his term to. So I start with him and follow the pathways from those original performers who ranged from Rockabilly to jump blues to doo wop to early soul, etc. Anything that flowed out of them I think should be considered part of the Rock And Roll tree; rather than only including the music that was actively marketed as Rock And Roll after this diverse and multiculutral original music was actively resegregated by radio programmers and record executives.

When discussion Janet I didn't mention country or folk or jump blues, or doo wop; because she isn't generally lumped into those genres - she gets called either R&B or POP.

James Brown was rightfully included in the original HOF class; he was considered Rock And roll by Alan Freed, and indeed Brown was billed as a Rock and Roll performer for over a decade of his career, until Funk and Soul became popular marketing terms to help sell him. As I said, Janet is a descendant of James Brown; so I think she is legitimately considered a descendant of Rock And Roll. Just one that I have no personal affinity for her singing or musical arrangements.

By the way; I'm not sure how old you think I am; I'm well over 50 myself. So our experience of popular music as marketed to us and presented is pretty similar; and I add in the breadth of music that my parents listened to; and the fact that I have from a very young age been fascinated by and deeply studied music history. So I go well beyond the industry marketing which often is trying to catch up to the ongoing evolution and cross-pollonation that is at the heart of American Music.

Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 14:32pm

I will however give you credit for far more internal consistency to your view of Rock and Roll than most people who actively dismiss modern pop, disco, etc. In that you also are willing to admit that such a limited view of what Rock And Roll is should by definition also exclude Metal, Prog, Punk, etc.

I do however think that view winds up taking the original very broad spectrum Alan Freed used, and follow a much too narrow branch off of it that had more to do with marketing than it did on musical progression, influence and innovation.

Posted by Shrek on Wednesday, 01/17/2018 @ 14:46pm

Shrek

James Brown is considered an r&b artist and not a r&r artist. his was influential and is highly spoken of by several artist and he had enough r&r elements to be inducted. He should never have been inducted in the first class because he didn't become relevant until the mid 60s. the same can be said for several other artist who were pushed ahead and created a gap and a lot of unhappy people.


Why would you even consider Alan Freed - a man who picked songs by who paid him money to play their records on the air. I see why rbist drool over him but under no circumstances should his playlist be considered an r&r bible.

The first r&r record was produced in Memphis - a blues city

a dj in Chicago is credited with playing the first r&r record - another city known for the blues

Elvis - the King of r&r said he picked guitar playing from local blues artist

The ones who should determine what is and isn't r&r are the ones that listen to it and not the corporate cronies

The rbist ideology is a huge problem and the hall is pushing this dogma. Just check how many of the people pushing this ideology are connected to the hall.
they are downplaying country and folk and trying to make it all about r&b. I am not the only one to notice this.

By the way I grew up only a few miles away from Chaka Khan and disco demolition.

I need to point out that African Ame3ricans that are my age are into soul funk and gospel. They are not into disco Jacskon 5 or Micheal Jackson - can you say teenie bopper music and Kiss and those who actually think the Monkees belong.

Saturday Night Fever - Footloose - Fame - Flashpoint

Gen Ex not r&r Jsnet Jackson does not belong in the hall. period she did not even lead she was a follower - lip synching is not r&r


this is the rock and roll hall of fame and not the gen ex hall of fame


tlc actually did have r&r elements in their music


Shrek if you are about my age what is REOs signature song - even my baby brother a part of the coho lips army knew this one?

Posted by Zuzu on Tuesday, 01/23/2018 @ 20:29pm

🙄

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 01/24/2018 @ 12:50pm

Weird - I posted a long response here yesterday that seems to have disappeared.

Ah well, it was too long and would have just caused further disagreement with somebody I'm unlikely to ever find much agreement with; especially given the logical fallacy of straw man arguments and attacks on my integrity by doubting I am as old as I claim to be.

For what it's worth I adore the country music that preceded Rock and Roll; especially Hank Williams and Bob Wills (who Chuck Berry was a big fan of and influenced his guitar playing). I was brought up on folk music as my mother was a fan of the folk revivalists of the 50s and early 60s. I made no slights against any of those in arguing that R&B is an important branch of Rock And Roll. I gladly acknowledge those musics as well, and regularly advocate for HOF inductions for artists that hew closer to those roots (I want John Prine and Graham Parsons inducted into the HOF) They were not pertinent to the discussion of Janet Jackson.

But at the core root, we disagree on the foundational definitions of Rock And Roll. That's fine; but it leaves us no particular middleground for an interesting conversation.

As I said, I start with Freed, not because there was no music that can be considered early Rock And Roll before him; but because without his huge influence; we likely wouldn't be calling any of this music by the marketing term in the first place. The entire idea of genre is a music marketing device. It has little to do with the way that innovative musicians create music; indeed most of those innovators find such labels to be artificially limiting.

What we now term Rock And Roll absolutely evolved before Freed, but it was the influence of his radio program, and the music he was playing and applying the term to, and the wild popularity of his early Rock And Roll package concerts that cemented the word into the mind of the national popular culture and collected an array of musicians with some pretty diverse styles into an acknowledged new genre. Without that influence, Elvis was a Country artist who was borrowing performance moves and songs from R&B and Gospel artists; and Chuck Berry was an R&B artist who was playing country guitar licks. With that marketing influence, they were two stars of a brand new genre, that could be played on the same station in *some* cities that weren't too racist to allow such integration.

So that's the foundation I start from; and it's the foundation this HOF started itself on. I feel it has made mistakes since that start, but I still think it set a very sound foundation, with a broad view of the stylistic diversity of early Rock and Roll; which is what makes this HOF worth discussing and pressing for it to correct some of its past mistakes.

Based on that wide view I still say, Janet Jackson is an artist I don't like; and I very happily haven't had to really continue to listen to since my daughter grew up and left home twenty years ago; but I think she has a place in the Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame. You disagree; but then again we don't agree on what Rock And Roll even is, so it's not particularly interesting to continue to debate the merits or lack of them for any specific artists for application to a term we don't agree on.

Posted by shrek on Thursday, 01/25/2018 @ 14:19pm

It was just announced that Janet Jackson is headlining the 2018 Essence Festival in New Orleans, July 5-8.

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 01/27/2018 @ 15:01pm

Janet nabs a second Festival headlining gig this summer.
This time .... Panorama NYC. Janet headlines Saturday night. The Killers headline on Sunday.

I've heard rumblings that Atlanta's Music Midtown in September is also going hard for Janet to headline that festival.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 03/27/2018 @ 00:31am

Janet nabs a second Festival headlining gig this summer.
This time .... Panorama NYC. Janet headlines Saturday night. The Killers headline on Sunday.

I've heard rumblings that Atlanta's Music Midtown in September is also going hard for Janet to headline that festival.

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 03/27/2018 @ 00:31am

Janet is headlining two additional summer festivals. FYF Fest and Outside Lands, in Los Angeles and San Francisco, respectively.

She's laying low at the moment, but I'd imagine there will be more dates or a new single or something very soon.

Oh, and I voted yes.

Posted by Ashley on Monday, 04/9/2018 @ 15:06pm

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/ourrockandrollhalloffame71305/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=2931&p=47482#p47482

**************JANET JACKSON**************
2018:JANET JACKSON RECEIVES BILLBOARD ICON AWARD...
YET STILL NO ROCK AND ROLL HALL INDUCTION !! WHY ??

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05/22/2018 @ 05:13am

https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/ourrockandrollhalloffame71305/janet-jackson-receives-billboard-icon-award-yet-st-t2931.html

**********JANET JACKSON**********

An ongoing blog on the "TOP of THE CHARTS FORUM"

"Madonna was inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame; Jackson is still waiting on her invite."

************BUT**************

And yet it is Jackson who is one of just FOUR artists (alongside Bruce Springsteen, Barbra Streisand and U2) to land number one albums in the 1980s, 1990s, 2000s and 2010s, a fact Bruno Mars noted while introducing her on Sunday. Surpassing Madonna’s record, Jackson has had 18 consecutive songs break the top 10 on the “Hot 100” singles chart and is the ONLY artist in Billboard history to have three different albums — “Control,” “Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814” and “janet” — to spawn at least five top 10 hits EACH on the “Hot 100” chart. She’s also amassed more than 100 total number ones."
Read MORE at the ABOVE LINK !!

Posted by Bill G. on Monday, 05/28/2018 @ 22:33pm

The fact is....NO Rhythm and Blues- Identified artists are getting inducted into the former Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I say "former" because the powers that be there have pretty much now correctly dubbed it as the ROCK Hall of Fame. And, as we all know, "Rock" means White Males with guitars.
I have discussed this issue at length on this site before. With the replacement of Terry Stewart as CEO with Greg Harris, and the removal of the Non Com members most likely to nominate Oldies, R&B, and Doo-Wop Artists, the RRHOF has become as exclusive as a Selma Alabama Country Club...BEFORE the Civil Rights movement.
The ONLY Black artists getting inducted in recent years, are NON R&B Black Artists. Case in point: NINA SIMONE Jazz/Blues. SISTER ROSETTA THARPE (gospel), BILL WITHERS (singer/songwriter/ Black Pop) ,JIMMY CLIFF (Reggae) , and , of course, RAP/HIP-HOP : NWA, THE BEASTIE BOYS, TUPAC SHAKUR .
That way, they can skillfully avoid Race-related accusations by saying that SOME Black artists are getting inducted. (just NOT R&B artists.)
In the meantime, several big names have just been ....LEFT OUT COLD !!
I don't need to mention names.
Actually , yes I do:

1) Dionne Warwick
2) Janet Jackson
3) The Marvelettes
4) Gene Chandler
5) The Commodores
6) Mary Wells
7) Jr Walker & The All-Stars
8) Rick James & The Stone City Band
9) WAR
10) RUFUS featuring CHAKA KHAN
11) The Manhattans
12) The Whispers
13) The Delfonics
14) Chubby Checker
15 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
16) The Spinners
17) The Dramatics
18 The Stylistics
19) Chuck Jackson
20) The Belmonts (Doo-Wop)
21) The Wailers (Reggae)
22) Lou Rawls
23) Barry White
24) Don Cornelius
25) Ashford & Simpson
26) Whitfield & Strong
27) The Pointer Sisters
28) The Chantels
29) The Intruders
30) Johnnie Taylor
31) The Chi-Lites
32) Anita Baker
33) SADE
34) David Porter
35) Rufus & Carla Thomas
36) Kool & The Gang
37) Thom Bell & Linda Creed

(This is a partial list)

These people should have all been inducted DECADES ago

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05/29/2018 @ 01:28am

It's not just Janet Jackson. She is just a victim in a much BIGGER ISSUE.
That issue is: The systematic unwritten BAN on Rhythm and Blues Artists from The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Bill G. on Tuesday, 05/29/2018 @ 01:29am

Nina Simone was an R&B act and was inducted last month. The real reason Janet is not in the HOF yet is because she doesn’t have enough support from the voters. But it’s gonna happen soon, since they’ll pick her up by the Nom Com’s/management’s choice rather than the final results from the ballot; that’s how some of the non-rock acts are inducted.

Once Janet gets in, Whitney and Mariah will be next - all of whom are too big and universal to be rejected.

Posted by The Dude on Tuesday, 05/29/2018 @ 10:40am

Whitney & Mariah and their sterile, adult-contemporary crap (which cannot EVER be called Rock or Soul) ain't never getting in the already worthless Hall!

Posted by Aw Hall To the No! on Tuesday, 05/29/2018 @ 13:16pm

https://www.bmi.com/news/entry/janet-jackson-to-be-named-a-bmi-icon-at-the-2018-bmi-rb-hip-hop-awards

BMI to award Janet Jackson as their ICON at the BMI R&B/Hip hop awards on August 30.

Quite a few accolades for Janet in early 2018. With new music on the horizon, headlining 4 major music festivals this summer and a dozen or so concert dates on the calendar - looks like Janet has a lot of momentum as we head toward the 2019 nomination ballot.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 06/27/2018 @ 08:01am

RIP Joseph Jackson

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 06/27/2018 @ 14:17pm

Janet slayed Essence Fest - massive crowds - rave reviews.

Next up, NYC this weekend for PanotamaNYC - aka Janorama. I’m attending and teally excited for the weekend!

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 07/26/2018 @ 02:22am

Janet will headline the Global Citizens Festival. Pretty sure she needs to be inducted. Now!

Posted by Mike on Tuesday, 08/14/2018 @ 10:48am

Janet will headline the Golbal Citizens Festival on Sept 29. It’ll be broadcast and streamed live worldwide from NYC Central Park. This will be amazing!

Posted by Marissa on Wednesday, 08/22/2018 @ 06:30am

Janet is long overdue for this induction. Not only has she been eligible since 2007, she's now tacked on much more stature as an artist, humanitarian, and woman. I'ma need yawl to do better... #InductJanet

Posted by Colissa Hall on Thursday, 08/23/2018 @ 14:05pm

Not rock

Posted by Anonymous on Monday, 08/27/2018 @ 11:56am

Really looking forward to Janet headlining another amazing Festival. The Global Citizens Festival.

Did you hear about Les Moonves? The sex-offending head of CBS that did everything in his power to banish Janet?

It’s happening people. #InductJanet

Posted by Mike on Saturday, 09/8/2018 @ 16:49pm

Appreciation for music is an entirely subjective thing. No doubt Janet Jackson was extremely popular in her time. There are a number of very popular artists who are out there who I think, like Janet, just weren't innovative enough despite their popularity. Connie Francis, the most popular female singer of the 60s in America, is a good parallel. You would be hard pressed to find any of Connie's recordings be played anywhere on radio nowadays. She just wasn't good enough.

Whereas you will see many of her brother Michael's songs become staples at radio, there are in fact not any of Janet's recordings that have stood the test of time, despite their popularity when they were recorded. Vocally, she's just not very good.

I understand why people would disagree with me. We all grow up thinking what was popular when we were young teenagers was good. Barry Manilow was very popular when I was fifteen. And I have a lot of fondness for Barry Manilow. But he doesn't belong in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame either.

Posted by Eric Tompkins on Tuesday, 09/18/2018 @ 06:03am

Eric Thompson,

Thank you for so clearly articulating your point of view. I do agree with you, completely.

;-)

Posted by Enigmaticus on Friday, 09/21/2018 @ 17:30pm

Dear Eric, I read your message and decided to test it myself. In the past days, I heard Nasty and Together Again on the radio and That's The Way Love Goes in the supermarket. I'd say that at least these three songs, along with What Have You Done For Me Lately, have become classics.

Posted by The_Claw on Wednesday, 09/26/2018 @ 04:16am

Dear Claw:

Read your note with interest and have to say that my experience has not been the same as yours relative to Janet's catalogue. Granted, this may be because I listen to radio stations that are more of a rock bent, but I also listed to a fair amount of top 40 oldies stations.

What my experience has been that while Top 40 oldies stations will frequently play Janet's brother Michael, and many Donna Summer songs, or Prince songs, or the IMHO unjustly ignored Spinners, none of Janet's songs have been staples on those stations. I don't think I've heard Together Again on the radio since it was a hit and the same goes with That's The Way Love Goes. (I remember both of those songs as being huge hits and remember hearing them frequently on Top 40 radio when they were hits but don't remember the songs very well because I don't think either of the songs are particularly memorable.) I have heard Nasty and What Have You Done For Me Lately but infrequently. And I remain convinced that the reason that has happened is Janet, like Connie Francis, is a weak vocalist for her degree of popularity in her heydey, the way the other artists I've listed are all incredible vocalists and have a host of very memorable songs.

Again, what one person considers good or classic is entirely subjective and I respect your right to believe otherwise.

Posted by Eric Tompkins on Wednesday, 09/26/2018 @ 16:05pm

Imagine if Dionne Warwick, Whitney Houston, and Mariah Carey got in before Janet Jackson.

2 more votes for Janet!

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 09/30/2018 @ 15:07pm

Roy

Id say one. Haven't you noticed all the no votes for Mariah and Whitney lately? JJ has already slipped from 2 most no votes to 4 most no votes. I suspect she is going to lose support with all the games she has been playing not gain. She might lose Dionne also since she is Whitney's godmother. So maybe she will get no votes from those 3. But I can see all 3 three getting in. I would not even guarantee JJ even getting in. Somebody may be trying to make all the negativity around her go by by but that does not mean it is still there for her and her family. Some people remember all the disgusting things associated with this family. Don't you remember what the family did to LaToya? They turned on her and they blame it on the fans. Not everybody is fooled by their propaganda. We remember.

Posted by Zuzu on Sunday, 09/30/2018 @ 18:36pm

We certainly do remember, ZuZu. And it appears you haven't a clue as to what you mention.

Janet's getting nominated. Janet's getting inducted. And it's LONG OVERDUE!

Posted by Mike on Monday, 10/1/2018 @ 14:28pm

Mike

You obviously are the clueless ones.
What did the family do to LaToya for speaking the truth?

Why did the family have an escape plan for Michael if he was so innocent?

You can keep saying she is going to get in but wit till the votes come in

Deserves it - now that is a joke. what did she do to deserve it - family paid for propaganda does not count. She only has a small handful of people who consider her an influence and that is for dance which has nothing to do with rock and roll but goes back to jazz. She didn't even start it. It was going on long before she came on the scene.

What I want to know is who is messing with no votes to get jj off the highest no vote list. Her paid for propaganda team may make this go bye bye too but we remember an the voters will remember too.

Just do not let your head explode come December

Posted by Zuzu on Monday, 10/1/2018 @ 14:56pm

Can someone explain why Janet Jackson is a popular choice? It's getting a tad bit annoying seeing her mentioned everywhere.

Posted by Michael on Tuesday, 10/2/2018 @ 13:17pm

She was nominated twice before in the past three years, had a very succesful world tour, was named a Billboard Icon in May, and people expect that she gained sympathy because of the recent revelations that she was blacklisted by Viacom CEO Les Moonves. These are the main reasons why many people predict Janet Jackson will be nominated again this year.

Posted by The_Claw on Tuesday, 10/2/2018 @ 14:52pm

Well she got the third nod and it seems a lot of the sites predicting think she has more than a chance this year. We may have to make way for two female inductees this year: Stevie Nicks and Janet Jackson.

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/9/2018 @ 21:56pm

Not sure why it's taking so long for Janet to be inducted. To me, Janet being inducted is a no brainer. She totally influenced pretty much all of these pop/r&b artists of the late 80's up until today. She had innovative albums, videos and performances. Janet is a pop icon and legend and it's about time that she was inducted. I really hope that she makes it in this time around.

Posted by Corinne on Friday, 10/12/2018 @ 12:08pm

I feel jlo and Britney need to be inducted along with Janet this year I think J Lo and Britney have impacted more music then Janet Janet has copied JLo lfor many years

Posted by PopTart2008 on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 05:59am

Come back when you obtain some IQ points...

Posted by KXB on Sunday, 10/14/2018 @ 07:11am

PopTart2008 basically clowned themselves by the name and thinking J. Lo and Britney (who I love) are more influential? Child please...

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 10/16/2018 @ 15:01pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVF0zcqr9Dg

The hit "MISS YOU MUCH" should be included
in JANET JACKSON'S list of ESSENTIAL SONGS .

Here's why: (from Wikipedia):

""Miss You Much" is a song recorded by American singer Janet Jackson, released as the lead single from her fourth studio album Janet Jackson's Rhythm Nation 1814 (1989). The single spent four weeks at number-one on the US Billboard Hot 100, making it the LONGEST-RUNNING number-one single of 1989. "Miss You Much" was the second-best selling single of 1989 and the biggest radio airplay song of the year. Billboard later listed "Miss You Much" as Janet Jackson's ALL TIME BIGGEST Hot 100 single. It is Jackson's third longest running number-one single, behind "That's the Way Love Goes" (1993) and "All for You" (2001), which spent eight and seven weeks, respectively, at number-one.

Its music video is considered iconic for its choreography and chair routine, and has been referenced by various artists. "Miss You Much" has inspired videos from Britney Spears, and was covered in the Korean film 200 Pounds Beauty, also being sampled by artists such as 50 Cent.

"Miss You Much" received two Grammy Award nominations, and was awarded the Billboard Award for the Top Hot 100 Single of the Year and two American Music Awards. It has been included in each of Jackson's greatest hits albums, Design of a Decade: 1986–1996 (1995), Number Ones (2009) and Icon: Number Ones (2010)."
"Song information
After the success of Control, Jackson returned with "Miss You Much", the lead single from Rhythm Nation 1814. It became Jackson's biggest selling single at the time, reaching number one on the Billboard Hot 100, where it remained for four weeks. "Miss You Much" also became her second number-one hit, the first being "When I Think of You". The song sold over four million copies, becoming one of the biggest-selling songs of the year.[3] The song peaked at number two in Canada and reached the top twenty in Australia and many European countries.

"Miss You Much" received two American Music Awards for Favorite Dance Single and Favorite Soul/R&B Single, with Jackson also nominated for Favorite Dance Artist. The song received two Grammy nominations for Best Female R&B Vocal Performance and Best R&B Song. The single also won a Billboard Award for Top Hot 100 Single of the Year and a Soul Train Music Award for Best Female R&B Single. It was also Jackson's fourth number one on the Hot Dance Club Songs chart. The "Miss You Much" single includes the B-side "You Need Me"."

Chart performance
(This song was a WORLDWIDE HIT !!)
Heavy anticipation and radio airplay during the late summer allowed "Miss You Much" to debut at number 42 on the Billboard Hot 100 the week of September 2, 1989, reaching number one within five weeks, where it remained for four weeks. It was the biggest airplay hit of the year, and fifth biggest overall, also peaking atop the Hot Dance Club Play and Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs charts. The song was the second best-selling single of the year, behind only Phil Collins' "Another Day in Paradise". It reached number 2 in Canada and New Zealand, and the top twenty of Australia, Finland, Germany, Switzerland, and the Netherlands. It peaked within the top twenty five in the United Kingdom, although its accompanying album reached the top five.

Posted by Bill G. on Wednesday, 10/17/2018 @ 15:37pm

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-the-rock-and-roll-hall-of-fame-snubs-randb-legends-like-janet-jackson

WHY THE ROCK and ROLL HALL of FAME SNUBS R&B LEGENDS like JANET JACKSON
An article in "The DAILY BEAST"by "Stereo" Williams
Dated 12-20-16

"Sam Cooke. The Platters. Hank Ballard. Ray Charles. Etta James. Charlie Christian. Al Green. Solomon Burke. The Impressions. Dinah Washington. The Staple Singers. Clyde McPhatter. The Drifters. Sam and Dave. Gladys Knight and the Pips. T-Bone Walker. Martha Reeves and the Vandellas. Laverne Baker. Earth Wind and Fire. Big Joe Turner. Louis Jordan. Bo Diddley. The Supremes. Bessie Smith. The Ink Spots. The Soul Stirrers. Ma Rainey. Ike and Tina Turner. John Lee Hooker. The Isley Brothers. The Orioles. Ruth Brown. Bobby “Blue” Bland. Frankie Lymon and the Teenagers. Willie Dixon.

What do all of these legendary Black artists all have in common? They’re all in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. All of the aforementioned artists from jazz, rock and roll, R&B, blues, soul and funk were inducted into the Rock Hall during its first decade of existence.

On Dec. 20th, the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame announced its 2017 class of inductees, and the collective of honorees looked very different.

In 2007, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five became the first hip-hop act to be inducted into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Potential inductees are only eligible for nomination 25 years after their first commercial releases, so with their first releases having been in 1979-1980, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five didn’t have to wait long for nomination and induction. Nor did Run-D.M.C., who became the second hip-hop act inducted in 2009. Nor did Public Enemy (2011) or the Beastie Boys (2012) or N.W.A. (2016).

And 2Pac, who released his first single and album in late 1991, is entering the Rock Hall in his first year of eligibility. It’s understandable that Tupac Shakur would be inducted so quickly; he has become hip-hop’s most celebrated martyr and one of the most iconic artists in the world, his legend bolstered by a strong five-album run while he was alive, several posthumous releases and countless documentaries, books and other works dedicated to his life, death and legacy. And with five other hip-hop artists having already broken the cultural barrier, it stands to reason that 2Pac’s nomination and induction would be at least marginally less controversial than his predecessors.

But while the Rock Hall’s embrace of hip-hop has been controversial, what warrants far more scrutiny is the Hall’s abandonment of R&B in the past decade. As the timeline for eligible artists has moved forward into the post-disco, urban contemporary and New Jack Swing eras of R&B, nominations for those genre’s greatest artists have been non-existent. The direct descendants of the Motown and Stax legends that the rock generation champions have been discarded for hip-hop acts that have largely been embraced by the same demographic that made superstars of Led Zeppelin and Black Sabbath decades ago: young white males.
A generation of rock fans that came of age in the 1960s heard British Invasion and Motown artists regularly played alongside each other on AM rotations. As a result, they grew up with an awareness of soul artists as contemporaries of rock artists and vice versa. But as the FM format came to the fore in the early 1970s, playing deep album cuts by psychedelic rock bands and laying the groundwork for what would come to be known as the “classic rock” format in later years, Black artists were once again marginalized by the mainstream. Now, the O’Jays were far less likely to be heard on station playlists alongside Pink Floyd. Even funk bands that were making music that was more or less identical to what hard rock bands were doing at the time were typically not included in rock rotations. Over time, this resulted in a sharp divide between mainstream rock and soul/funk music; this schism was amplified by the rise of disco and the subsequent backlash against it. That divide set in motion the split that lead to R&B in the ’80s and ’90s being virtually ignored by rock radio and now, rock institutions.

Sade. Luther Vandross. New Edition. The S.O.S. Band. Zapp. Whitney Houston. The Gap Band. Barry White. Mariah Carey. The Manhattans. Grace Jones. Anita Baker. Guy. Patti Labelle. The Commodores. The Spinners. Teddy Pendergrass. Chic.

None of them are in the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and most have never been nominated.

In the mainstream canonization of popular music, R&B has all too often been valued solely by its proximity to rock (from the 1950s to the 1970s) and hip-hop (from the late 1980s to now.) While rock and hip-hop have their respective histories, scenes and subgenres analyzed by the most visible platforms, there hasn’t been the same kind of devotion to documenting R&B as its own force. Especially not for R&B in the years since disco.

One of Netflix’s popular new documentaries is Hip-Hop: Evolution, a look at the rich history of hip-hop broken up into several episodes examining different eras. The docuseries is engrossing, and it comes just about a month after the stellar PBS documentary series Soundbreaking, a look at the art of recorded music. That particular doc devoted an entire episode to hip-hop’s contributions to how popular music is made, but while certain luminaries of Black music like Sly Stone were certainly recognized; there wasn’t the same level of investment in making sure the audience knew names like Norman Whitfield and Maurice White in the same way that Brian Wilson and Brian Eno were recognized. And geniuses of production like Roger Troutman or Rick James are hardly ever celebrated on the same level for their record-making as Daniel Lanois or Mutt Lange.

In order for that to change, institutions like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame have to do something they’ve never seemed comfortable with doing: de-centering white guys as their chosen audience. As long as the Hall thinks there’s more value in continuing to stroke aging Baby Boomer tastes, it will continue to be inconsequential. If you want to die on the Journey hill, Rock Hall—have at it.

But contemporary R&B is a lot cooler—and a lot more interesting.

As to be expected, Black platforms have done a much better job of acknowledging the richness of contemporary R&B history. Acts like DeBarge and Full Force have been recognized and had their stories told on TV One’s popular Unsung series, which salutes under-celebrated artists in Black music. Programs like BET Honors and the Soul Train Awards emphasize the greatness of the artists who defined Black music—many of whom were at the forefront for a generation that came of age in the ’80s and ’90s. And TLC, Aaliyah and less mainstream R&B singers like Michel’le and Miki Howard have also had their stories told via television biopics.
But as we move further and further away from the era when rock and rockist biases defined the critique and commentary surrounding popular music, as “Disco Sucks” rallies of yesteryear look more and more like the racist, homophobic musical effigy burnings they were, and as the critical dismissals of artists like Vandross and Baker as “lounge act” R&B sound more like the wrong side of history as opposed to unquestionable gospel, institutions like the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame are going to have to come to grips with the fact that no one cares about what they used to represent anymore. And the more they insist on scraping the bottom of the ’70s classic rock barrel (we’re this close to a Supertramp induction, folks) as opposed to boldly stepping into the era of quiet storm, New Jack Swing and hip-hop soul, the more they will languish in irrelevance.

Inducting 2Pac is nice, but there are more viewers interested in seeing a Janet Jackson induction and tribute. That’s no slight to Pac, but Janet’s resurgence over the past two years has reignited recognition for the pop diva as one of the definitive artists of a generation. And unlike 2Pac, Janet could at least make an appearance. Her influence connects with a number of contemporary artists and fans in a way that Electric Light Orchestra never will. So it’s the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame’s loss. Another year of getting it wrong means another year of irrelevance.

The Rock Hall needs R&B far more than R&B needs the Rock Hall."

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 03:23am

Who cares about JJ?

If you look at her fan sites - not her fans!!!!

This jj propaganda is getting old.

She is pop by the way and not r&b.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 10:01am

She recently completed the second leg of a sold out "State of the World Tour" --- and she headlined more than 5 major Festivals this year.

Clearly you're right, Zuzu. Her fans don't care.
WTF are you talking about? Lol

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 12:14pm

She recently completed the second leg of a sold out "State of the World Tour" --- and she headlined more than 5 major Festivals this year.

Clearly you're right, Zuzu. Her fans don't care.
WTF are you talking about? Lol

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 12:15pm

If it was up to HER , THE ROCK HALL would be 99.9% Lily White...with one exception: CHUBBY CHECKER.
CHUBBY CHECKER was a MANUFACTURED STAR....created by DICK CLARK for TWO reasons: 1) Because he wanted to make money off of THE TWIST,because he knew the dance was going to be BIG, but he COULDN'T... because the artists who recorded it, HANK BALLARD & THE MIDNIGHTERS, had no financial or contractual relation to him. He had part ownership of CAMEO-PARKWAY RECORDS...not KING RECORDS, The MIDNIGHTERS' label ....so he needed and artist who was under contract to HIM, to be able to "cash in" on the inevitable "Twist craze" that he knew was coming. So he found one ERNEST EVANS, renamed him "CHUBBY CHECKER"...and the rest is history. 2) He did NOT want THE MIDNIGHTERS to be the "KINGS OF THE TWIST". He also didn't want them to appear on his show, due to their risque reputation. BUT THE MAIN REASON was #1. MONEY. He made a deal with Sid Nathan, owner of KING RECORDS, to give heavy promotion to two of The MIDNIGHTERS'records , in exchange for licensing permission to have one of HIS artists record "THE TWIST". The deal was made, and those two MIDNIGHTERS songs he promoted, became their two BIGGEST HITS: "FINGER POPPING TIME" and "LET'S GO, LET'S GO, LET'S GO" (There's a Thrill on The Hill)

Although CHUBBY CHECKER is DESERVING, The HoF so far , has said they won't induct him.No one knows why. Perhaps it's because his most famous record is a COVER of a Hank Ballard & THE MIDNIGHTERS tune...And THE MIDNIGHTERS are ALREADY INDUCTED.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 14:40pm

BUT.... as a SIDE POINT, Being a "R&B COVERS" ACT hasn't seemed to prevent OTHER artists from being nominated or inducted....look at THE ROLLING STONES, THE J GEILS BAND, and LINDA RONSTADT !!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 14:48pm

BUT.... as a SIDE POINT, Being a "R&B COVERS" ACT hasn't seemed to prevent OTHER artists from being nominated or inducted....look at THE ROLLING STONES, THE J GEILS BAND, and LINDA RONSTADT !!

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 14:49pm

Bill, in fairness, I think she'd allow Chaka to be in, due only to her Chicago connections.

Posted by Paul in KY on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 14:58pm

Chaka is gonna have to wait.

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 15:11pm

Paul

you sexist need to learn you have no business speaking for me. Rufus had talent. It was not just Chaka Khan by the way, look at what Hawk Wolinski did too. They are very much integrated with other Chicago artists.

JJ on the other hand is a fraud that is perpetuated with propaganda paid with Jackson Family money.

Timmy
We will see what hapens come December, The only way jj is getting in is by cheating.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 16:32pm

Linda Rondstandt also covered country too.

Bill
You still need to look up who covered Mel Tillis.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 16:43pm

Either Zuzu is a male-identified female Trump voter/Republican or she is disguised as a man and you could easily not come here. You got your views, we got ours. But you doing this to get attention is not working. Your racist, misogynistic views are great for Breitbart, not here.

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 17:59pm

Little Timmy

You obviously have no argument and resort to acting like a little kid. You only make yourself look the fool.

Come back when you actually have something intelligent to say and are ready to carry on an adult conversation. By the way there is opinion and there is fact. Can you even tell the two apart.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 19:13pm

Old Zuzu,

You're a sad, sad person. Also going on some artist's page going off topic. You make your troll-ism too obvious. You're just mad no one shares most of your views on who should be inducted. Go whine on Lionel Richie's page.

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 20:22pm

Little Timmy

Still acting like a 2 year old because you have no idea how to have an adult conversation.

Posted by Zuzu on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 20:40pm

The fact is....NO Rhythm and Blues- Identified artists are getting inducted into the former Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.
I say "former" because the powers that be there have pretty much now correctly dubbed it as the ROCK Hall of Fame. And, as we all know, "Rock" means White Males with guitars.
I have discussed this issue at length on this site before. With the replacement of Terry Stewart as CEO with Greg Harris, and the removal of the Non Com members most likely to nominate Oldies, R&B, and Doo-Wop Artists, the RRHOF has become as exclusive as a Selma Alabama Country Club...BEFORE the Civil Rights movement.
The ONLY Black artists getting inducted in recent years, are NON R&B Black Artists. Case in point: NINA SIMONE Jazz/Blues. SISTER ROSETTA THARPE (gospel), BILL WITHERS (singer/songwriter/ Black Pop) ,JIMMY CLIFF (Reggae) , and , of course, RAP/HIP-HOP : NWA, THE BEASTIE BOYS, TUPAC SHAKUR .
That way, they can skillfully avoid Race-related accusations by saying that SOME Black artists are getting inducted. (just NOT R&B artists.)
In the meantime, several big names have just been ....LEFT OUT COLD !!
I don't need to mention names.
Actually , yes I do:

1) Dionne Warwick
2) Janet Jackson
3) The Marvelettes
4) Gene Chandler
5) The Commodores
6) Mary Wells
7) Jr Walker & The All-Stars
8) Rick James & The Stone City Band
9) WAR
10) RUFUS featuring CHAKA KHAN
11) The Manhattans
12) The Whispers
13) The Delfonics
14) Chubby Checker
15 Harold Melvin & The Blue Notes
16) The Spinners
17) The Dramatics
18 The Stylistics
19) Chuck Jackson
20) The Belmonts (Doo-Wop)
21) The Wailers (Reggae)
22) Lou Rawls
23) Barry White
24) Don Cornelius
25) Ashford & Simpson
26) Whitfield & Strong
27) The Pointer Sisters
28) The Chantels
29) The Intruders
30) Johnnie Taylor
31) The Chi-Lites
32) Anita Baker
33) SADE
34) David Porter
35) Rufus & Carla Thomas
36) Kool & The Gang
37) Thom Bell & Linda Creed

(This is a partial list)

These people should have all been inducted DECADES ago.
It's not just Janet Jackson. She is just a victim in a much BIGGER ISSUE.
That issue is: The systematic unwritten BAN on Rhythm and Blues Artists from The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Bill G. on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 21:56pm

"Little Timmy - You obviously have no argument and resort to acting like a little kid. You only make yourself look the fool."

You literally -just called- a person a sexist for merely -making a joke- about you (like he was really speaking for you). I'd think the adult thing would probably be take the joke on the chin and move on with the discussion, but clearly I'm not an adult. I'm not even saying Timothy's in the right here.

"By the way there is opinion and there is fact. Can you even tell the two apart."

OK then. Post -A- link - JUST ONE LINK - saying either Janet Jackson's influence or her nomination were completely bought and paid for by the Jackson family. And I'm not asking a thinkpiece or some questionable blog. One solid source. Wikipedia itself lists over 100 artists with each getting individual sources saying Janet was an influence, so if you want to compete, you need one good source in your corner.

What's more, re-read the top of the page: Janet spent nearly a decade with NO nominations. It took a petition group to even net her the first one, and this was for an artist with huge mainstream success in the 80s. If the Jackson family had that much pull, she'd have been on the ballot in her first year, Super Bowl or no. That kind of thing implies that she had someone working against her nomination.

And I will say this much: between you arguing that Kraftwerk had no influence on rock and you telling me it was stupid that I thought Chicago's induction would benefit Blood, Sweat, and Tears, then putting up as a better fit, among others, Ides of March (whose big hit is a BST sound-alike), my trust of your opinion is shaky. Give me something to sink my teeth into, and I'll give you some credence.

Not even being a jerk. I'm giving you free reign to prove me wrong. And I'm going to clarify something here: I am not a big Janet Jackson fan.

Posted by SotN on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 22:09pm

SotN

Be careful. You're in dangerous waters here. By attempting to engage in an adult conversation you are risking being branded a member of the FRL Bully Squad.

Posted by joker on Thursday, 10/18/2018 @ 22:47pm

Now Timothy, I know you don't think ole Lionel is the greatest & all that, but he's not the quality of performer to drag him down by associating you-know-who with him (whether she likes him or not).

I saw the guy at Bonnaroo a few years ago & it was one of the best sets I saw that weekend.

She could go hang out on the PJ Proby page...

Posted by Paul in KY on Friday, 10/19/2018 @ 07:43am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2918SUaoNJg

Here's an interesting VIDEO !!

********YOUNG LOVE-JANET JACKSON (1982)********

Janet's VERY FIRST CHART HIT .It reached #62 on
The BILLBOARD HOT 100, TOP 10 on the BILLBOARD R&B
Chart, and was ALSO a TOP 20 HIT in NEW ZEALAND,
peaking at # 16.
(VIDEO from SOUL TRAIN)

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 21:32pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLdFMz_qKEg

JANET WAS ONLY 16 WHEN SHE CHARTED HER FIRST HIT,
"YOUNG LOVE"

THESE NEXT VIDEOS WERE FROM A SLIGHTLY...EARLIER
TIME IN HER LIFE...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OwYHZN_xK8Y

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XRwEmXUBg0c

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bGcHY0WYOEE

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 21:46pm

The first album is where she established her R&B cred but of course she had to change course because the projects she did were teen oriented. I love the first album!

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 10/20/2018 @ 22:04pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkvjiYRjxSM

Here's JANET at Age 16 on The MIKE DOUGLAS Show.
Cute interview...with her pet SNAKE . (GULP !!)

Posted by Bill G. on Friday, 10/26/2018 @ 23:59pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=npsDFDZMYOs

Aw SHUCKS !!! JANET was so CUTE !!!
HERE'S AN INTERVIEW with DICK CLARK
and some early performances ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0y27qcxJIJY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l2Lisqmqxmg

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 00:12am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ALjWDf2lzk

JANET'S FIRST EXPERIENCE with a MOVING STAGE !!

***********(On a German Talk Show)***********

***************(WHAT ???)*************

Posted by Bill G. on Saturday, 10/27/2018 @ 02:21am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S55DEliGNKk
JANET ON ROSIE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PWOj1RUJXus
JANET ON OPRAH
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=up-353i_VNg
JANET ON OPRAH: THE HALFTIME SHOW CONTROVERSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M7jndHmmhfo
JANET ON LETTERMAN
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxPo5nM8ztEJANET ON TYLER PERRY

Posted by Bill G. on Sunday, 10/28/2018 @ 04:22am

Janet will receive the "GLobal Icon Award" on Sunday (Nov 4) at the MTV EMA Awards.

Live from Bilbao, Spain.

Posted by Mike on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 12:32pm

It's like Induction in the Rock Hall is the only music award Janet hasn't received.

Posted by Follower on Wednesday, 10/31/2018 @ 13:50pm

She hasn't got a Kennedy Center Honor yet though that's basically arts-related. And she's not in the Songwriter's Hall yet either (don't know if she'll be a serious suggestion though since they would look her as third fiddle behind Jimmy & Terry though she provided the lyrics for the most part).

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Friday, 11/2/2018 @ 16:24pm

Over 3 years ago, I had written this, while playing the devil’s advocate:

As I had said previously. "Janet Jackson is a relatively good actress." Now, induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame is a different matter entirely.

1. Has she been influential on other artists? Yes

2. Does she have a history of consecutively great albums? Maybe

3. Does she write her own lyrics?

4. Does she write her own music, or does she have professional songwriters write her songs for her?

5. Does she sing her songs, or lip synch, in concert?

6. Did Quincy Jones, or any other great producers ever want to work with her, because of her extraordinary talent?

Okay, Janet worshippers, convince me that your so-called goddess meets those criteria and provide me with substantiated proof, from independent sources, not affiliated with Janet, or her production team and I will listen to your
arguments. Otherwise, I will not, under any circumstances whatsoever ever support her induction into the Rock & Roll Hall Of Fame, period!

By the way, Jimmy Jam works for her, or her record company, does he not?

Yet, you basically chose to ignore me, much to your detriment. What I did not tell you then was that that previous statement basically had represented a large number of people, i.e. the voting public. Janet has received three nominations and the opportunity has never been better for her to garner an induction. However, if she does not make it this year, then her competition will be much greater next year.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Saturday, 11/17/2018 @ 19:42pm

Enigmaticus,

To answer #3 and #4:
Most of the early inductees of the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame weren't exactly known for writing their music unless it was Chuck Berry, Ray Charles, Sam Cooke, Smokey Robinson, Marvin Gaye or Bob Dylan. In fact of the original ten 1986 inductees, only Chuck Berry, Ray Charles, James Brown and Sam Cooke were the first singer-songwriters of that lineup whereas most others like Jerry Lee Lewis and Elvis Presley's signature anthems were written by other writers so that doesn't take anything away from Janet, who is a lyrical songwriter and somewhat composer (Black Cat, etc.).

As with #2, yeah she had a series of great albums between 1986 and 2001 that shaped modern day pop and R&B music while also influencing SOME modern rock artists if not by the sound but by the style she, Jam and Lewis cultivated together.

#5. It's a mixture. She sings along to the track during the uptempo recordings but she totally sings live during the ballad portion of her show (and during songs like Together Again and portions of Rhythm Nation near the end).

#6. To be fair to Quincy Jones, most of his talent was as a jazz and funk collaborator. When it came to pop, the best he could produce was MJ and Lesley Gore. So I wouldn't trust what he thought of Janet?

I get you have a biased opinion on why you think Janet shouldn't be in and I respect it but I just disagree. As long as Madonna and Donna Summer (God rest her soul) got in, they opened the door for Janet. Like it or not.

If she does get in, don't get too upset. :) But I see you agree that she has a great chance to get in this year. ^_^

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 00:37am

Timothy Pernell,

It is quite refreshing to finally hear a voice of reason. My point is that if an artist relies on other individuals, then those individuals should be inducted alongside that artist. No man or woman is an island. If Janet Jackson does get inducted, then I think that Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis should be inducted alongside her. Now, if she does not make it in 2019, then I think that she will finally face Sade. Unlike Janet Jackson, Sade is a group and Helen Folasade Adu will be inducted alongside Stuart Matthewman, Paul S. Denman, Andrew Hale and perhaps Paul Cook and the late Dave Early. Unlike Janet Jackson however, most aficionados of the “holy trinity” of prog will endorse Sade.

Posted by Enigmaticus on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 09:39am

The ‘holy trinity of prog’ Has nothing to do with anything.

This is Janet’s year!

Posted by Mike on Sunday, 11/18/2018 @ 10:13am

Janet Jackson is # 6 on the Official 2019 Rock And Roll Hall Of Fame Fan Poll, and she's staying put. I think this is her highest finish of all her nominations. Does anyone remember which position she finished on the last two times?

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 09:58am

Janet Jackson music videos directed by Dominic Sena:

Pleasure Principle * Let's Wait A While * Miss You Much *
Rhythm Nation * Come Back To Me * If

What Have You Done For Me Lately directed by Brian Jones and Piers Ashworth.

Nasty and Control directed by Mary Lambert.
Escapade directed by Peter Smillie
When I Think Of You and Alright directed by Julien Temple
Black Cat directed by Wayne Isham.
Love Will Never Do Without You directed by Herb Ritts.
That's The Way Love Goes and Again directed by Rene Elizondo.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 10:15am

# 6 , # 13 , & # 6 in the polls for Janet Jackson each time nominated!

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 11/21/2018 @ 10:37am

Can Janet make it to 200,000 votes before the fan vote officially ends at 11:59 pm EST, December 9, 2018? Maybe.

She's now at 175,321 votes. In terms of voting totals, it's the most she's gotten in quantity level but before when fan votes let you go up to a MILLION, she had 9 million in 2015 and when they edited how to vote the following year, she only had 76,556 votes.

But being at 175k is the most she's gotten in a close ballot as this one.

To compare her fan votes in the past, let's see her 2015 numbers:

Janet was #6 with 9,461,890 votes in 2015. She was the most voted African American artist on the list and was #6.

Top 5 at the time were:
1.) Chicago (37 million)
2.) Yes (26 million)
3.) The Cars (25.9 million)
4.) Deep Purple (25.5 million)
5.) Steve Miller (25.5 million)

Interesting to note that of these five, only Chicago, Deep Purple and Steve Miller got in (2018 could be a repeat if for some reason both Stevie and Todd don't make it to the 2019 class) and Deep Purple and Steve Miller, two of the bottom five that got in, were virtually tied.

If the Rock Hall felt good about voting for who finally got in that year, Steve Miller gave them a mouthful at the ceremony...

The next year, Janet was up again. But I'm starting to think there was another reason for her to lose out this year other than the AA (African American) vote being split five ways.

In 2017, Janet was basically chilling after having her child, son Eissa. She also was planning another world tour (State of the World) that revived portions of the Unbreakable World Tour.

Her 2017 fan vote results were much less at 76,556 votes. She was not #13 but #11.

Top 5 on this list were:
1.) Journey (250,758)
2.) ELO (210,830)
3.) Yes (189,099)
4.) Pearl Jam (153,458)
5.) The Cars (149,911)

Of this list, the top 4 got in (The Cars got skipped over for 2Pac and Joan Baez being the sixth inductee so it wouldn't be a male-only class).

Black nominees included Chaka Khan, Chic, Joe Tex, Bad Brains, and 2Pac (Janet made it six black nominees).

Bad Brains were the odd punk group out and had to compete with another punk act (or proto-punk), MC5.

So that left Chaka, Chic, Joe, Janet and Pac.

Chaka was nominated solo so this definitely had an issue as far as the overall votes. Then you had Chic who was also skipped over (I think they remedied this by just inducting Nile so Chic wouldn't be back on the board; knowing the voters, they probably thought in terms of the black artists, "that's one too many")

So eliminate Chaka, Chic and Joe Tex and you got Janet Jackson and 2Pac.

2017 inducted six members. It may have been possible for Janet AND Joan to be inducted in the same year but 2Pac was hanging on the balance and Janet was in London with her baby and estranged husband. So the Hall decided to go with Pac as the lone black/urban inductee because it was an easy pick.

The 2019 list is less of a populist class than previous lists Janet was nominated in. In 2016, she had to tend with the likes of the aforementioned populist acts like Chicago, Deep Purple, Steve Miller and Cheap Trick as well as N.W.A., whose hit movie helped them virtually to get the induction. The following year, FOUR very popular/populist rock acts got in while 2Pac and Baez fit the "minority section".

2016's list also had the unfortunate stance of being male-only.

What benefits Janet this time is the list has less populist acts where everyone can rally around:

Def Leppard (populist)
Stevie Nicks (possible history-maker)
Todd Rundgren (hard to categorize but I'd put him in the critical darling list though he's semi-populist based on his hits in the early '70s)
The Zombies (critic darlings)
The Cure (alternative rock/critic darlings)
Radiohead (critic darlings)
John Prine (critic darling)
LL Cool J (populist rapper)
Janet (I'd put her in the populist category too but at least six of her albums have also been hailed by critics; also the sole pop act nominated)
Rage Against the Machine (alternative rock)
Roxy Music (artsy rock/critic darlings)
Devo (critic darlings)
Kraftwerk (critic darlings)
Rufus & Chaka Khan (lone R&B act)
MC5 (possible Singles Hall inductee)

In terms of this list, there are less barriers for Janet to break. R&CK will get passed over. LL Cool J could possibly get in but so could John Prine and the Hall may have to do what it hasn't done in 26 years and induct two female artists.

So I think this is why Janet will finally get in. It'll be a controversial pick for some for sure but not too controversial that it doesn't shake the so-called foundation.

What happens after December 9th is of anyone's guess.

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 14:38pm

If Janet was not black and not related to MJ she be inducted already! Her impact in the 80's and 90's was bigger then Madonna. She broke and set more records then Madonna at that time! She opened door for all women of color! She was the first woman of color on heavy rotation on MTV/Video! She set the standard for all women of dance even for Madonna. Many of albums have Rock songs much more then other women already inducted! She is also the only woman to be nominated in all main categories in Grammy's

Posted by Steph on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 21:27pm

@ Steph

This is an unpopular opinion: While I think Janet will get in by the Nom Com’s choice once they’re done counting the votes, but I don’t think race and gender has nothing to do with why she’s a big snub. Like most rock fans, most of the guys who are on the voting body are notorious for their purist opinions and attitudes cause of their strong beliefs in authenticity. If Janet was musically a hundred percent more like Janis Joplin or Joan Jett rather than a pop diva, she would be a Hall of Famer right now.

Granted, there are some white male rock fans who are stupidly racists and sexists, but most of them aren’t when they talk about the difference between “real rock music” and other genres in their minds.

Posted by The Dude on Saturday, 11/24/2018 @ 22:35pm

Janet is now with the Paradigm Talent Agency.
http://hitsdailydouble.com/news&id=314332&title=PARADIGM

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Tuesday, 11/27/2018 @ 20:56pm

If Janet Jackson gets enough votes for induction, they'll induct Jimmy Jam and Terry Lewis in the non-performers category in 2019 as well.

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/6/2018 @ 16:44pm

Why it seems fair to induct both Janet and Stevie:

Stevie's would be for her to be the first dual female inductee.

For Tina, there's an increase in female inductees. Here's how the 32-year history of the Hall in terms of female inductees.

1986 - no female inductee (ten inductees, all guys)
1987 - Aretha Franklin was the first-ever female inductee (and only one that year)
1988 - The Supremes (only the original members Diana Ross, Florence Ballard (D) and Mary Wilson were inducted)
1989 - No female performer inducted but Bessie Smith got in as an "early influence".
1990 - Zola Taylor was inducted as a member of The Platters. Ma Rainey got in as an "early influence".
1991 - Tina Turner was inducted as a member of Ike & Tina while Lavern Baker got in as a performer and Carole King got in as a songwriter.
1993 - Etta James and Ruth Brown got in as performers while Dinah Washington got in as an early influence. Meanwhile Cynthia Robinson and Rose Stone was inducted as part of Sly & the Family Stone.
1994 - Donna Jean Godchaux got in as member of the Grateful Dead.
1995 - Janis Joplin got in solo, Martha and the Vandellas (Martha Reeves, Rosalind Ashford, Annette Beard, Betty Kelly and Lois Reeves) was also inducted.
1996 - Gladys Knight got in with The Pips, Grace Slick got in with Jefferson Airplane, Maureen Tucker got in as member of the Velvet Underground and the Shirelles (Shirley Owens, Doris Coley, Addie "Micki" Harris, and Beverly Lee) got inducted.
1997 - Joni Mitchell got in as a solo performer; Mahalia Jackson was inducted as an "early influence".
1998 - Mama Cass & Michelle Phillips got in with the Mamas & the Papas while Christine McVie and Stevie got in with Fleetwood Mac.
1999 - Dusty Springfield was inducted along with three of the Staple Singers (Mavis, Cleotha and Yvonne).
2000 - Billie Holiday was inducted under "early influence" while Bonnie Raitt was inducted as a performer.
2001 - no female inductee that year.
2002 - Brenda Lee and Tina Weymouth of the Talking Heads were inducted.
2003 - No female inductee at all that year.
2004 - Ditto for this year.
2005 - Chrissie Hynde is inducted as member of the Talking Heads.
2006 - Debbie Harry was inducted with Blondie.
2007 - The Ronettes (Ronnie Spector, Estelle Bennett and Nedra Talley) and Patti Smith were inducted.
2008 - Madonna was the sole female inductee.
2009 - Wanda Jackson got in as "early influence" though she was nominated as a performer. A pretty controversial induction; Wanda should've got in as a "performer". I blame Wanda's backdoor induction on Ron Wood's relationship with Bobby Womack, which is the only reason he ever got in. ABBA's Agnetha Fältskog and Anni-Frid Lyngstad got inducted.
2010 - No female inductee that year.
2011 - Darlene Love is the sole female inductee that year.
2012 - Laura Nyro and Claudette Rogers Robinson of the Miracles is inducted.
2013 - Donna Summer and Ann & Nancy Wilson of Heart are inducted.
2014 - Linda Ronstadt and Patti Scialfa of the E Street Band gets inducted.
2015 - Joan Jett is inducted as the leader of the Blackhearts.
2016 - No female inductee and I blame this year on the huge populism of nominees.
2017 - Joan Baez is inducted.
2018 - Nina Simone (performer) and Sister Rosetta Tharpe (early influence) is inducted.

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So, in short, that's 65 women in all inducted to the Hall. Just 65. Janet would make it 66. Stevie wouldn't. That's why Janet's induction is actually more important than many think as far as female representation in the Hall. It's not good enough for just Stevie.

Posted by Timothy on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 18:35pm

Timothy,

You left out two female songwriters, Ellie Greenwich
and Cynthia Weil, both of whom were inducted in 2010. You also left out the women of ABBA (Anni-Frid Lyngstad and Agnetha Faltskog) who were also inducted in 2010.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Saturday, 12/8/2018 @ 21:23pm

I’ve waited a long time for this. Congratulations to Janet Jackson - 2019 inductee into the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Posted by Mike on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 08:34am

11 years after Madonna!

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 12/13/2018 @ 09:37am

Did you know Crimson King Robert Fripp and Janet Jackson have the same birthday, May 16? Fripp was born on that date in 1946 while Janet was born twenty years later. Also they share an album title:
Discipline. King Crimson released their album on September 22, 1981 while Janet released her album on February 26,2008.

Posted by Aaron O'Donnell on Sunday, 12/16/2018 @ 17:54pm

I think Janet Jackson should just sing at the Rock Hall induction ceremony, and forget the dancing and moving around on stage. Just stand in one spot, hold a microphone and sing Nasty, What Have You Done For Me Lately, Control, That's The Way Love Goes. This will shut up the people that complain about you know what.

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 12/19/2018 @ 10:38am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOL33bi-zp4

BLACK WOMEN MATTER

Janet Jackson, Whitney Houston, Mariah Carey, Tina Turner, Diana Ross

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 12/22/2018 @ 23:49pm

Janet's induction was a long time coming and I'm so glad she'll add to the number of female performers. Hopefully her induction bodes well for other female performers - Chaka Khan in particular.

Posted by Timothy on Wednesday, 01/2/2019 @ 14:33pm

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/janet-jackson-las-vegas-residency-800253/

Janet Jackson Announces Las Vegas Residency

Metamorphosis launches this spring at Park MGM resort’s Park Theater

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 02/26/2019 @ 20:43pm

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

1988: Berry Gordy Jr.
1997: The Jackson 5
2001: Michael Jackson
2013: Quincy Jones
2019: Janet Jackson

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 03/27/2019 @ 19:20pm

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2tGZzWXQAA4mIi.jpg:large

JANET JACKSON PHOTO ON SCREEN - ROCK HALL REHEARSAL

Posted by Roy on Thursday, 03/28/2019 @ 12:16pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEPGJWLsTdA

THE JANET JACKSON VIDEO BIO AT THE 2019 ROCK HALL INDUCTION CEREMONY, JACKSON 5 / MICHAEL INCLUDED, BUT NO SCREAM

Posted by Roy on Monday, 04/1/2019 @ 05:05am

A clip of Janet Jackson making a kicking motion from the Scream music video was actually including in the video bio at the Rock Hall induction ceremony.

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05/7/2019 @ 11:10am

THE ROCK AND ROLL HALL OF FAME INDUCTEES

2001: Michael Jackson
2004: Prince
2008: Madonna
2019: Janet Jackson

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05/7/2019 @ 11:13am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jnp7_9P-6Bs

Janet Jackson Induction into the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame 2019

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 05/7/2019 @ 16:10pm

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V53OfsZCaHY

The Jacksons: An American Dream [Television Series - 1992]

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 05/11/2019 @ 09:37am

Anyone who is offended by an exposed boob is a child and there opinion doesn't matter. And there's nothing with wrong with having a lot of lgbtq in your fanbase unless you count them as not equal to straights. I hate to break it to you but they also love Duran Duran and Roxy Music.

Posted by David on Saturday, 07/27/2019 @ 01:41am

The bulk of Janet’s catalog is getting reissued on vinyl.
Really exciting news for vinyl collectors and Janet fans alike.

Recently reissued on vinyl:
Control
Control: The Remixes
Rhythm Nation 1814 - celebrating a 30 year anniveraY this September
janet.
The Velvet Rope
All For You
Danita Jo

Additionally, a 12” remix for the Made For Now single is being released early August.

Great news all around!

Posted by Mike on Friday, 08/2/2019 @ 00:36am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BfMbvM8Z9Ok

1987: Diamonds by Herb Alpert and Janet Jackson

Posted by Roy on Tuesday, 09/17/2019 @ 07:01am

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w62rstHn_34

Inductee Insights: Janet Jackson

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 09/18/2019 @ 17:07pm

The iconic and record breaking Rhythm Nation 1814 album was released 30 years ago today.

Pop masterpiece!

Posted by Mike on Friday, 09/20/2019 @ 01:11am

According to Chartmasters.org, when you tally up Janet Jackson's record sales from her studio albums (from 1982's "Janet Jackson" to 2015's "Unbreakable"), they bring an estimated total of 50.5 million copies worldwide, meaning despite being a decent worldwide seller between 1986 and 2001, Janet sold less copies overseas than she did in the United States, which made up the bulk of her sales.

Going on U.S. album sales alone, the albums between 1982 and 2015 sold around 33.35 million copies, with just around 16-17 million overseas.

Then on physical singles globally, Janet wounded up with a whopping total of 40.625 million. So far this brings her overall total to 91.125 million records so far.

Add in digital single sales, she sold another 13.33 million, bringing her to a total of 104,455,000 million records.

Adding in stream "sales", the total is added to 104,717,721 million records, meaning Janet only sold a total of 262,721 streaming equivalent album sales. Janet is not really strong on the digital or streaming formats though that might chance if in some unfortunate event, she meets the same fate as her brother.

Take away the stream "sales", but add in sales from compilations and music videos, Janet's total is 116,630,000 copies. So while her record sales have definitely reached 100 million, when you compare it to Whitney, Celine, Mariah and Madonna, Janet is pretty low overall in a career that has lasted nearly 38 years. Still impressive as hell though.

Posted by Timothy Pernell on Monday, 12/30/2019 @ 20:32pm

The idea that because janet had a wardrobe malfunction she shouldn't be inducted because it offended christian fascists is absurd. Rock and roll should be about rebellion and for the love of god it's not the prog music hall of fame. A variety of artists outside your personal music tastes can be inducted. Your personal tastes are not the only hall criteria.

Posted by David on Saturday, 02/20/2021 @ 14:59pm

She's already inducted.

Posted by Roy on Saturday, 02/20/2021 @ 15:01pm

Home of the Jackson 5 Sign Unveiling

Marlon and Tito Jackson unveil highway signage that directs tourists to 2300 Jackson St. in Gary, Indiana.

May 13, 2021

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVeA__2tFXg

Posted by Roy on Sunday, 05/23/2021 @ 22:44pm

Janet Jackson shares glimpse into bond with Michael Jackson in new documentary l GMA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlEDkK4gbvU

Michael, Janet Jackson Write A Song Together In New 'Janet' Doc Footage
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzPcfu4RYQg

Janet Jackson's Documentary Addresses Justin Timberlake Super Bowl CONTROVERSY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QseQo54dDk0

Posted by Roy on Wednesday, 01/26/2022 @ 11:02am

Janet Jackson Documentary reaches 15.7 million viewers on Lifetime, A&E
https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/tv-ratings-janet-jackson-documentary-1235169094/

Since the ratings were so strong and #JanetJacksonDoc was trending #1 on social platforms for both nights, Lifetime will encore all four hours of "Janet Jackson" starting tonight (Feb 4) at 8pm EST.

Posted by Mike on Friday, 02/4/2022 @ 08:54am

The Michael Jackson Case For Innocence Podcast
https://open.spotify.com/show/5OFkjoLLWkCAmvqiy2HcoV
https://twitter.com/Case4Innocence

Posted by Roy on Friday, 12/2/2022 @ 15:56pm